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The National Recon Office's theory on Interstellar propulsion

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posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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The NRO believes that vehicles they have been observing are not ANTI gravity, as almost everyone has stipulated, but are actually AMPLIFYING gravity... That is , they become related to a distant star and FALL TOWARDS IT..! The lack of a heat signature increase or sound increase leans toward the hypothesis that KINETIC or Potential energies are what is being used here, and not generated energy... This explains the silence, and "herky-jerky" motion, and the awkward motion of phenomena in earth atmosphere.. The atoms of the vehicles somehow are "related" to stars, planets or other bodies, and they are able to amplify the effect that gravity of a specific object has on them so it can pull them towards it. There are enough bodies out there that this kind of association can pull a vehicle in any direction at any time, or a vehicle can "float by equalizing its pull betwixt different bodies equally.. This is why observed phenomena often appear to be "floating, and bobbing along, as if on the surface of a pond.."
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posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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hey would love to see your source for this.
Was wondering how you found this out?
Was wondering how they found that out.
etc...



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by BASSPLYR
hey would love to see your source for this.
Was wondering how you found this out?
Was wondering how they found that out.
etc...


A technology called "tempest" a Signals intelligence tool, (or "sigint" tool for short) has been fitted on certain aircraft to ascertain the signals emitted by known and unknown aerial targets. This tool was originally developed to detect and recon "foreign" technology, including ufo's. It can be used to tell the make, model and software on any computer within range... It can also decipher passwords to the computer thru the unique signals that keypresses make...



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by sensible1

Originally posted by BASSPLYR
hey would love to see your source for this.
Was wondering how you found this out?
Was wondering how they found that out.
etc...


A technology called "tempest" a Signals intelligence tool, (or "sigint" tool for short) has been fitted on certain aircraft to ascertain the signals emitted by known and unknown aerial targets. This tool was originally developed to detect and recon "foreign" technology, including ufo's. It can be used to tell the make, model and software on any computer within range... It can also decipher passwords to the computer thru the unique signals that keypresses make...


Again, as asked by 'BASSPLYR', could you please provide sources for this information?
Thanks.

Edit to add:
Plus, the information you provided above on SIGINT does not mention the gravity manipulation propulsion you discussed in the OP. How are the two connected?

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posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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Tempest is actually an obsolete phrase, the more modern is "EMSEC" or emissions security. , developed in 1918 by Herbert Yardley to intercept enemy radio signals on the battlefield . It was aimed at "orbs" seen in WW! and WWII.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by sensible1

Originally posted by BASSPLYR
hey would love to see your source for this.
Was wondering how you found this out?
Was wondering how they found that out.
etc...


A technology called "tempest" a Signals intelligence tool, (or "sigint" tool for short) has been fitted on certain aircraft to ascertain the signals emitted by known and unknown aerial targets. This tool was originally developed to detect and recon "foreign" technology, including ufo's. It can be used to tell the make, model and software on any computer within range... It can also decipher passwords to the computer thru the unique signals that keypresses make...


Again, as asked by 'BASSPLYR', could you please provide sources for this information?
Thanks.

Edit to add:
Plus, the information you provided above on SIGINT does not mention the gravity manipulation propulsion you discussed in the OP. How are the two connected?

edit on 11/29/2012 by Soylent Green Is People because: (no reason given)


Tempest or EMSEC is used to determine the technology of unknown phenomena. The determination is that the energy used is kinetic or potential, because there is no "burst" of energy when they take off at high speed..



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by sensible1
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
 


Tempest is actually an obsolete phrase, the more modern is "EMSEC" or emissions security. , developed in 1918 by Herbert Yardley to intercept enemy radio signals on the battlefield . It was aimed at "orbs" seen in WW! and WWII.



Ok, thanks...
But you didn't really answer my question.

My question is this:

Could you please provide the source(s) that you have from which YOU got the information that the National Reconnaissance Office believes they are observing craft that are amplifying gravity?

You said in your opening post:


Originally posted by sensible1

The NRO believes that vehicles they have been observing are not ANTI gravity, as almost everyone has stipulated, but are actually AMPLIFYING gravity... That is , they become related to a distant star and FALL TOWARDS IT..!

What craft are have they been observing?
Who is "almost everyone" who stipulated antigravity?
Why do they think these craft are amplifying gravity?

Please tell me how YOU heard about this (i.e., please provide your source).


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posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by sensible1
reply to post by Soylent Green Is People
 


Tempest is actually an obsolete phrase, the more modern is "EMSEC" or emissions security. , developed in 1918 by Herbert Yardley to intercept enemy radio signals on the battlefield . It was aimed at "orbs" seen in WW! and WWII.



Ok, thanks...
But you didn't really answer my question.


My question is this:

Could you please provide the source(s) that you have from which YOU got the information that the National Reconnaissance Office believes they are observing craft that are amplifying gravity?

You said in your opening post:


Originally posted by sensible1

The NRO believes that vehicles they have been observing are not ANTI gravity, as almost everyone has stipulated, but are actually AMPLIFYING gravity... That is , they become related to a distant star and FALL TOWARDS IT..!

What craft are have they been observing?
Who is "almost everyone" who stipulated antigravity?
Why do they think these craft are amplifying gravity?

Please tell me how YOU heard about this (i.e., please provide your source).


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The point my friend, is "is it true?" please focus on that...for your sakes, i can share that several aerospace and defense consultants, as well as high ranking members of our own air force have concluded that no vessel mkaing the apparent voyage suspected of unknown phenomena would have capacity for onboard fuel, and thusly must use "anti-gravity" technologies.. They have been commissioned to develop this technology, and are STILL working on a solution.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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Maybe this will help,but my searches aren't turning up much on the op's claim.

www.nro.gov... w.html



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by tinhattribunal
oh! please help me , oh sensible one! i don't know how to use my search engine ! oh no, what am i to do, how will i ever find a link !



Wow... I am doing my best to disclose some things..It's the THINGS that are important if the disclosed info is true.... not the discloser unless its a lie.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by kdog1982
Maybe this will help,but my searches aren't turning up much on the op's claim.

www.nro.gov... w.html


start here.. www2.l-3com.com...


Now would you please listen to what the heck I have to say? Or not?



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by sensible1
The point my friend, is "is it true?" please focus on that...


I have no idea if it is true or not.

How could I tell you how true it is unless you help me find out where you got the information (specifically)?



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by sensible1

Originally posted by kdog1982
Maybe this will help,but my searches aren't turning up much on the op's claim.

www.nro.gov... w.html


start here.. www2.l-3com.com...


Now would you please listen to what the heck I have to say? Or not?



L3 makes a lot stuff. I used to do integration work (revising building architecture and providing building engineering systems) to put L3 luggage screening equipment into airports.

However, I'm not sure how this particular L3 catalog (this is for L3's mission integration division) has anything whatsoever to do with the National Reconnaissance Office theorizing that there are unknown craft using gravity manipulation as a form of propulsion.

Please...What is the connection? How do you know the National Recon Office thinks this?



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posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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Ok,go ahead,I'm listening.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Just the specs to prove that Tempest is what I said it is.. But what you have is DOCUMENTED REAL PROOF of a technology used since 1918 to gather signals of "foreign" technologies. If you wanted proof of "next level tech" that is hidden from the public and capable of things you never knew existed.. Here it is.. Think the "tri-corder" on Star Trek.... Now realize that more advanced tech existed 50 years before Star Trek was even thought about...

Tempest technology or EMSEC, was pointed at enemy ships, planes, and aircraft during the World Wars.. Sometimes UFO's showed up, and were assumed to be Japanese, German or something else.. Only the emissions were... impossible. Objects that speed away under power have certain emissions.. These did not.. If they were not under power, they were anti-grav (according to most consultants) but now atoms have been (quantum-related?) in laboratory experiments... I am not a scientist, so pardon me for the laymans terms. The main thing is, when something happens to one particle, it happens to the other particle, regardless of distance. The size of these particles that are related has been steadly increased. To put a long story short, you can have a whole object (such as a ship) related to an object in a distant galaxy without breaking the laws of physics.. (well documented by einstein)... And this is how interstellar or even intergalactic travel is theorized to occur in these cases. BTW, the "reaction " is instantaneous regardless of distance.. whatever devices connect the particles exchange the information of changes FASTER THAN LIGHT...



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 05:21 PM
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Do you know if we have that technology yet?



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 05:24 PM
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The atoms of the vehicles somehow are "related" to stars, planets or other bodies, and they are able to amplify the effect that gravity of a specific object has on them so it can pull them towards it.


Maybe it's a frequency thing. If I am not mistaken different celestial bodies give off different frequencies. Perhaps that is what is being amplified. Similar to the way a linear amp works with CB radio signals. Just thinking outside the box here so I don't have a source per se.

Interesting theory though, gives food for thought. Thanks for posting it.
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posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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Yes we do...

physicsworld.com...



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by UberL33t
reply to post by sensible1
 



The atoms of the vehicles somehow are "related" to stars, planets or other bodies, and they are able to amplify the effect that gravity of a specific object has on them so it can pull them towards it.


Maybe it's a frequency thing. If I am not mistaken different celestial bodies give off different frequencies. Perhaps that is what is being amplified. Similar to the way a linear amp works with CB radio signals. Just thinking outside the box here so I don't have a source per se.

Interesting theory though, gives food for thought. Thanks for posting it.
edit on 11/29/2012 by UberL33t because: tags


Weird you say that... The thought is that we are seeing "Gravity recievers and transmitters" just like any radio frequency transmission.... So its not really anit grav.. Stars and planets and black holes are now thought to be "highways" transmitting transportation routes along "gravity wells" of frequencies... CERN is working hard to locate these particles, so that we can try to tune in....
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