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Originally posted by zysin5
Chemtrails have existed many many times in our past.
Agent Orange was used by the U.S. military from 1961 to 1971 in Vietnam. The herbicide was used to defoliate inland and coastal forests, cultivated land, and areas around military bases during the Vietnam conflict.
Originally posted by MagicWand67
reply to post by Uncinus
Looking the same and being the same are entirely different.
It would be like saying the steam from your car exhaust pipe is the same as when you exhale.
Isnt chemtrails prooven to be hoax?
Geoengineering Cost Analysis
In the case of the present system, a significant quantity of sulfuric acid will be stored on the aircraft and ejected into the atmosphere during flight. This liquid could be injected into the engine to provide additional thrust at high altitudes to combat thrust lapse. As discussed in the previous section elevated sulfur content is detrimental to engine component life, and consequently traditional liquid injection techniques (compressor inlet injection) would not be appropriate for this system. However, some thrust augmentation may be realizable by injecting the sulfuric acid downstream of the turbine, in a manner similar to a modern afterburner. By this approach, to achieve thrust increases the turbine exhaust gases must be hot enough to vaporize the sulfuric acid
Geoengineering Cost Analysis
While the sulfuric acid injection technique described above does provide some extended altitude capability, it does not appear to provide a substantial enough benefit to warrant its implementation in a turbofan engine for that purpose. However, injection of the sulfuric acid into the exhaust in this way may represent an efficient method by which to disperse it into the atmosphere. This analysis suggests that even at the maximum sulfuric acid release rate under consideration (24.9 kg/s) the thrust level produced by the engine is not adversely affected (1.05 thrust ratio).
Geoengineering - Aerosol
Option 1: Increasing Sulfur Content of Jet Fuel in Commercial Fleet
Option 2: Direct Injection of Sulfur Dioxide Gas Using Dedicated Fleet of Jet Aircraft
Option 3: Direct Injection of Sulfur Dioxide Gas Using High Altitude Jet Aircraft
Option 4: Direct Injection of Ammonium Sulfate Aerosol Using Dedicated Fleet of Jet Aircraft
Option 5: Running Commercial Jet Engines with Richer Fuel to Air Ratio
Option 6: Running Dedicated Fleet of Jet Engines with Richer Fuel to Air Ratio
Option 7: Running High Altitude Aircraft Jet Engines with Richer Fuel to Air Ratio
Good thread though.. I might add.. I know some people who are very dead set on talking about chemtrails here and now in the USA. I just have not seen the proof. Ive seen an over whelming amount of disinformation that tries to make those claims. But its all been out right lies, and disinformation.
Originally posted by eXia7
So we're just going to pretend geo-engineering doesn't exist?
I don't really see how chemtrails don't exist if geo-engineering is going on, Those particulates don't fly themselves up there now do they?
I mean they do admit to "thinking" about the idea, but these are scientists, they will do w/e they need to. And I continue to remain 50/50 on this conspiracy. I mean, unless people are flying planes through these trails, and testing the air.. I don't really see how it couldn't be done, all the while people refer back to contrails. People act like it's hard to hide a form of chemical in a contrail. absurd.edit on 11/29/2012 by eXia7 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Rudy2shoes
Here is a fact for you
Chemtrail debunkers with their theory's of what a chemtrail is.
I am more interested in how they know more about chemtrails then the public,
and dictate what they are?
They need me to believe that they are what they create in their minds,
so they can ridicule my believe.
Any argument that does not meet their believe,
has to be discounted and then ridiculed because they claim,
I do not understand what a chemtrail is in their minds.
They they try to dictate what a chemtrail is,
thus they can tell you or me your wrong.
Fact they will never discuss chemtrails that do not meet their criteria.