What are the world Governments getting ready for. I have the field narrowed down!, page 6


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reply posted on 29-11-2012 @ 02:26 PM by new_here
Originally posted by SimonPeter
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The Fukushima disaster or maybe the Israeli / Iran war may have a nuke exchange , either would push the Elite below the Equator to avoid Radiation . That radiation will in time die down .

Now that is VERY likely. I recall that when Fukushima first happened, Obama took a trip to somewhere in South America instead of addressing the nation that radiation was in danger of hitting the Jet Stream.


reply posted on 29-11-2012 @ 02:36 PM by NoJoker13
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O do we? So maybe you can show me those images from 1900-1920.... Since according to you, without images it can't be true. Also care to dispute this factual information, www.eldoradocountyweather.com...
the graph by NASA at the bottom of the page shows temperatures rising since 1880, there wasn't much of any fluctuation between 1900-1920.
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reply posted on 29-11-2012 @ 02:38 PM by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by AQuestion
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Dear pheonix358,

The governments hire analysts to prepare for all contingencies. Contingency planners attempt to prepare for any possibility. You build underground shelters not because you think there will be an atomic war; but, instead because they would be good in an atomic war, a famine, civil disruption, solar flares, heck, underground shelters are useful in many possible scenarios. What I am attempting to show you is that there is no one thing that they may be afraid of, it may just be preparing for many possible situations.


Precisely. Any global civilization in formation must prepare for any and all eventualities.

The evidence suggests however, that we live in a friendly universe, or we wouldn't be here enjoying the relative stability we enjoy today.

People have such little faith in this day and age, combined with a lot of paranoia.

Whatever will be will be, but me, from where I sit, I'm the eternal optimist. I see the dawning of a new golden age, not cataclysm.


reply posted on 29-11-2012 @ 02:38 PM by NoJoker13
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So then you can go to the article I was talking about and find where gore said he was going to use that fire cyclone as evidence of global warming? Since that was the subject at hand that I brought up, how about you stick to it. Also care to dispute the graph at the bottom of this page, it's from NASA and shows an alarming warming of the planet since 1880. www.eldoradocountyweather.com...
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reply posted on 29-11-2012 @ 02:40 PM by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Who says the Chinese are not profit driven? They have sacrificed some of the more traditional Communist functions to allow for some growth. In other words, they are using some more Capitalistic means to spur economic growth(clearly because Agrarian Communist ways don't work).
But if they are doing what you say they are doing, then they are engaging in some empire building, and they still engage in heavy Internet censoring and they are still doing the One Child policy too. Remember Russia did empire building as well, when they were strictly Communist. Afghanistan was empire building, as Afghanistan had their own Communist Party which stirred up trouble then the Ruskies came in to restore peace(by engaging in warfare).
Also, Africa has a lot of resources, so I am thinking that the Chinese are expanding operations into Africa and using their own personnel to run operations, hence the appearance of cities which do not have large populations of native Africans. I would not be surprised if they tried this in the US, only large blocks of our resources have already been earmarked by the UN as World Heritage sites and therefore off limits to humans. Land around Yellowstone is a classic example. There are lots of resources in that area, including gold mines. Also there is coal, because there is an issue with the coal industry wanting to build terminals for coal exports and the environmentalists are fighting even the Unions on this(even in the midst of Barack trying to bankrupt coal).
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reply posted on 29-11-2012 @ 03:01 PM by Golf66
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
So are 5,000 bomb shelters around Moscow and I'm still wondering, what was built under the White House? They all seem to be in on something and the higher people are, the more likely they seem to be retiring for personal and family reasons. The number of open seats this last election was incredible for the power and seniority changing hands it all represented. So many with little to fear in losing by votes, willingly giving up and retiring. Kinda odd too....all things considered.


My question has always been that while we are spending billions and arguably trillions on making sure that there is continuity of government in the case of some global disaster what is it they predict will happen after they have retreated to the holes we financed for them and emerge to find that a good many of us have survived and made do without them....

Do they think we will then just say, "Whew, welcome back it must have been hard all safe in the hidey holes with food and safety." "What can we do for you now?" "How may we serve you?"

BS - they are going to come out and start making decrees and reallocating resources to find a good many people have established their own forms of governenance. Some will be elected leaders with good hearts others will be necessary despots who carved new nations out of chaos and war.

I know what I am going to say. The land from here to here is the Kingdom of "Mine-all-mine-ia".

You ceased to have any claim when you hid and left the people to their own devices. You took our taxes and saved yourselves. Come and get it if you want it back. I will entertain international relations provided you do x and y... etc.

Depending on how bad it is and how long they stay down I think they will not be crawling out into a world that welcomes them as their rediscovered rulers and/or saviours but as thieves and con-men who will be hunted down for crimes against their own people.

That is my prediction.




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reply posted on 29-11-2012 @ 04:17 PM by abeverage
Originally posted by Golf66
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
So are 5,000 bomb shelters around Moscow and I'm still wondering, what was built under the White House? They all seem to be in on something and the higher people are, the more likely they seem to be retiring for personal and family reasons. The number of open seats this last election was incredible for the power and seniority changing hands it all represented. So many with little to fear in losing by votes, willingly giving up and retiring. Kinda odd too....all things considered.


My question has always been that while we are spending billions and arguably trillions on making sure that there is continuity of government in the case of some global disaster what is it they predict will happen after they have retreated to the holes we financed for them and emerge to find that a good many of us have survived and made do without them....

Do they think we will then just say, "Whew, welcome back it must have been hard all safe in the hidey holes with food and safety." "What can we do for you now?" "How may we serve you?"

BS - they are going to come out and start making decrees and reallocating resources to find a good many people have established their own forms of governenance. Some will be elected leaders with good hearts others will be necessary despots who carved new nations out of chaos and war.

I know what I am going to say. The land from here to here is the Kingdom of "Mine-all-mine-ia".

You ceased to have any claim when you hid and left the people to their own devices. You took our taxes and saved yourselves. Come and get it if you want it back. I will entertain international relations provided you do x and y... etc.

Depending on how bad it is and how long they stay down I think they will not be crawling out into a world that welcomes them as their rediscovered rulers and/or saviours but as thieves and con-men who will be hunted down for crimes against their own people.

That is my prediction.




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I have thought this too. If it does not completely wipe out the surface anyone who ran and hid might not want to come back out for a few generations at least...


reply posted on 29-11-2012 @ 04:29 PM by PuterMan
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O do we? So maybe you can show me those images from 1900-1920.... Since according to you, without images it can't be true.


Misinterpretation is a wonderful tool isn't it. I did not say that without images it cannot be true. I said that you can not show satellite images continuing back from the ones you showed.

There are accounts, written of the ice and the lack thereof in the early 1900s and there are probably accounts of later years to give a continuous written record.

In this blog post you will find the written account of 1922.

If you are able to read textual data, or to produce a graph from it, then use this dataset of Northern Hemisphere anomalies to see the wobble in temperatures in the 1920s but bear in mind that this also is a mean for the whole of the hemisphere. The point is mainly that the written word from the time said that it was melting. Are you disputing history?

A little further information on ice loss: Ice sheet melt massively overestimated, satellites show

This came from Maxmars new thread

Also care to dispute this factual information, www.eldoradocountyweather.com...
the graph by NASA at the bottom of the page shows temperatures rising since 1880, there wasn't much of any fluctuation between 1900-1920.


Why would I care to dispute it when I referred to it? If you recall I mentioned the 0.9°C rise since 1880, which is exactly what that graph is showing. If you have any idea what that graph is then you would understand why a local warming in the polar regions might not show for some extremely good reasons. That is the GISS LOT graph which stands for Land and Ocean Temperatures and the anomalies are based on the base period of 1951 to 1980. The polar regions are not well represented and the fact that the chart is the global anomalies means that any local fluctuation would be smoothed. Maybe you should read this for more information.

As far as the effect of climate change from anthropogenic sources is concerned, the solar radiation received at the earth's outer atmosphere is just under 1400 watts per metre squared. Total radiative forcings from all anthropogenic sources are at best just over 1.5 watts per metre squared.(increase from 1880 = 0)

Perhaps you should do a little research before offering pictures and graphs without apparently understanding the data behind them.

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reply posted on 29-11-2012 @ 04:37 PM by Blue_Jay33
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Then I started looking aorund the web and saw that LOTS of people had that same "feeling". I can't put my finger on it. I just have a feeling that something wicked this way comes.


Hunches and "feelings" are based on real things seen and felt just below our brains perceptive level, no solid proof of coarse, but our brains can connect all the little dots we don't actively think about, producing "that feeling".
Most women are very good at it, they can sniff out cheaters with zero proof. And even zero hints sometimes.
And really anything to do with people type relationships.

My thoughts are we have under one decade to go, until the systems in place today as we know them fail, and a great calamity strikes.
The Bible calls it "The Great Tribulation".
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