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Originally posted by new_here
I just have never ever seen a celestial body hang out with the Moon before, in all my born days! How often can we expect to see Jupiter and Moon tracking along together?
Originally posted by alfa1
Originally posted by new_here
I just have never ever seen a celestial body hang out with the Moon before, in all my born days! How often can we expect to see Jupiter and Moon tracking along together?
The answer is.... every 28 days.
Last year, when Jupiter was also its brightest at opposition, ATS had at least one thread every month asking "whats that bright thing near the moon?".
Originally posted by new_here
Come to think of it, seems like Jupiter is rising more Northerly than last year, but not sure I can visualize how that could be possible.
Originally posted by alfa1
Originally posted by new_here
Come to think of it, seems like Jupiter is rising more Northerly than last year, but not sure I can visualize how that could be possible.
Its certainly possible. I'll check the numbers after I type this post...
Its the same situation as the sun during the seasons, but at a much much slower rate due to the much much slower rate that Jupiter orbits the earth.
The tilt of the earth is offset from the "plane" of the ecliptic in which the planets and sun appear to be set, so from an observer on earth pointing to a direction in space, its not the same angle from the equator, as the angle from the ecliptic.
Really needs a diagram to visualise it I suppose.
FULL MOON AND JUPITER: When the sun goes down tonight, step outside and look east. Jupiter and the full Moon are only a few degrees apart. This conjunction is so bright, it can be seen even from brightly-lit cities.
Originally posted by alfa1
Originally posted by new_here
Come to think of it, seems like Jupiter is rising more Northerly than last year, but not sure I can visualize how that could be possible.
Its certainly possible. I'll check the numbers after I type this post...
Its the same situation as the sun during the seasons, but at a much much slower rate due to the much much slower rate that Jupiter orbits the earth.
The tilt of the earth is offset from the "plane" of the ecliptic in which the planets and sun appear to be set, so from an observer on earth pointing to a direction in space, its not the same angle from the equator, as the angle from the ecliptic.
Really needs a diagram to visualise it I suppose.
Edit...
year mo dy hr mi sc Planet RA PlanetDec
2011 11 28 0 1 0 1.989870 10.68773
2012 11 28 0 1 0 4.693233 21.40394
Ok, so what that means is the "declination" (the degree to which Jupiter is north/south) was 10 degrees last year, but 21 degrees this year. So yes, its more north now.
Gold star for you.
Originally posted by new_here
But did you mean to say up there "...slower rate that Jupiter orbits the SUN?" or were you describing how it appears to me on Earth in that sentence?
Originally posted by UnaChispa
Which state are you in?
Originally posted by alfa1
Originally posted by new_here
But did you mean to say up there "...slower rate that Jupiter orbits the SUN?" or were you describing how it appears to me on Earth in that sentence?
Now edited for correctness.
But yes, I was thinking at the time of the positions of things as seen from earth (because for this experiment thats all that matters).
The sun...
As seen from earth, it travels "around" the view of background stars once a year.
Remembering that the earths axial tilt is 23.4 degrees, the sun goes one cycle of north/south/north as seen by an earthly observer during that year.
Jupiter...
It travels around the sun once every 12 years.
Because the earth is so close to the sun (compared to Jupiter), then Jupiter also travels around the view of background stars (from an earthly observer's point of view) and takes 12 earth years to do so.
eg. 12 years to go from Scorpio, around and back to Scorpio.
Remembering that the earths axis is tilted, Jupiter goes one cycle of north/south/north as seen by an earthly observer during that 12 year period.