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Israelis and Palestinians alike tell the same joke: the Israeli/Palestinian leader asks God: “Lord, will there ever be peace in the Middle East? Will it happen in my lifetime?” God answers: “Yes, of course, there will be peace. But not in my lifetime.”
Frustration at the failure to reach a negotiated solution of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict creates an understandable thirst for alternative approaches. One such approach is resurfacing at the moment: the Palestinian initiative to achieve unilateral recognition at the United Nations. In yesterday’s Daily Telegraph, the former Pal
Originally posted by Spike Spiegle
reply to post by MysterX
I wish to remind everyone, that I remain completely neutral on this matter.
I don't back Israel anymore then I do the Palestinians.
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There is no path to statehood for the Palestinians except through negotiation with Israel
Originally posted by Spike Spiegle
reply to post by flice
If it appears like that, I'm sorry.
But
Like I said I am completely neutral when it comes to this, when I say " thoughts" all I really wanted was your thoughts on the matter, no your personal opinion on or about me.
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Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
The sub-title of the article is rather pathetic (not directed towards you OP).
There is no path to statehood for the Palestinians except through negotiation with Israel
What a crock of #
Israel does not want negotiations, when they portray the false illusion of wanting negoations they make ridiculous demands that they know the Palestinians will not agree with so they can say "hey, we tried, but the Palestinians don't want peace".
There is no path to statehood for the Palestinians except through negotiation with Israel
In yesterday’s Daily Telegraph, the former Palestinian foreign minister, Nabeel Shaath, demanded that “Britain atone for its sins” and support this move. This would be a serious setback for peace.
The current UN initiative is another in a long line of evasive tactics to avoid coming to the table and making tough choices. As David Cameron clearly put it: “There is no path to statehood except through talks with Israel. So if the Palestinian plan is simply posturing with the UN rather than negotiating with Israel, Britain will never support it.” Anyone who truly cares for real peace should say the same.
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
The sub-title of the article is rather pathetic (not directed towards you OP).
There is no path to statehood for the Palestinians except through negotiation with Israel
What a crock of #
Israel does not want negotiations, when they portray the false illusion of wanting negoations they make ridiculous demands that they know the Palestinians will not agree with so they can say "hey, we tried, but the Palestinians don't want peace".
Daniel Taub is Israel’s ambassador to Britain
David Blair
David Blair became Chief Foreign Correspondent of the Daily Telegraph in November 2011. He previously worked for the paper as Diplomatic Editor, Africa Correspondent and Middle East Correspondent.
First, a word on what this means. The Palestinians already have “observer” status at the UN, but this gives them a delegation in New York and not much else. Upgrading this by one notch to “observer state” – the same status as the Vatican – would give them access to the UN’s agencies and, crucially, the right to apply for membership of the International Criminal Court (ICC). They could, in theory, use this position to get the ICC to investigate Israel for war crimes. In the words of one Israeli diplomat, the aim would be to open a “new arena against Israel in international fora”.
And Britain? Well, this is where things get complicated. On the one hand, Britain has the same position as France on Palestinian statehood, so in theory London should simply vote in favour. But America is adamantly opposed to Abbas’s move – and Britain is deeply unwilling to break with its closest ally. So the Palestinian application neatly impales London on the horns of a dilemma. Vote in favour and break with the Americans? Or vote against and ignore the logic of Britain’s own position on Palestinian statehood?
So what’s the answer? Diplomats are paid to get around conundrums of this kind and William Hague has duly come up with a classic formula. Yes, Britain will support the Palestinian application, but only under certain conditions. First and foremost, he has asked Abbas to refrain from trying to join the ICC. In other words, the Palestinians must not open the door that most worries Israel and the US.
Originally posted by triune
The Palestinians dont want peace with the Jews. They want the Jews gone.
Originally posted by Spike Spiegle
Gaza militants have fired between 750 to 800 rockets into Israel this year
Originally posted by bigyin
Originally posted by triune
The Palestinians dont want peace with the Jews. They want the Jews gone.
That could be right and I don't blame them.
If you were raped time and again by somebody staying in the same place as you would you be happy to continue to live alongside them ?
Palestinians have to seek every bit of international support they can, because negotiating with Israel will lead nowhere unless combined with the leverage of international pressure.