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Originally posted by chr0naut
A case in point is E=mc^2, beautifully elegant, yet solving the field equations that arise from it, for the real world, is impressively complex.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by jiggerj
He said that no one can pinpoint where a photon will hit a sensor, but physicists can say with some certainty that 33% of photons will land in a certain area, and a percentage will hit here and there. So, Brian throws an imaginary photon ball and it lands in that 33% region of the sensor at the end of the alley.
Now, wait a minute. If we take that one photon hit on the sensor and reverse it, we would HAVE TO find a reason for that photon to hit exactly where it did. I mean, there has to be a reason - a cause - for the photon to fly the way it did. I have no idea what those causes were (gravity, bumping into another photon, a weak spot in the vacuum of space... I really have NO IDEA) but there had to be a reason for the photon to land where it did. Wouldn't you think?
He said no one can pinpoint - BUT physicists can say with SOME certainty!!! Not certainty!
You want a reason. Humans want reasons. Why? - is the cry of a human!
Humans can't see or hear what is happening because they want a reason for everything, they are distracted by the mind shouting 'Why?' and 'there must be a reason''. The mind now has you in it's grips, you become it's servant, you now seek an answer for the mind that cannot be found. It keeps you busy, it keeps you confused and it keeps you feeling inferior and lost.
edit on 8-12-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by jiggerj
He said that no one can pinpoint where a photon will hit a sensor, but physicists can say with some certainty that 33% of photons will land in a certain area, and a percentage will hit here and there. So, Brian throws an imaginary photon ball and it lands in that 33% region of the sensor at the end of the alley.
Now, wait a minute. If we take that one photon hit on the sensor and reverse it, we would HAVE TO find a reason for that photon to hit exactly where it did. I mean, there has to be a reason - a cause - for the photon to fly the way it did. I have no idea what those causes were (gravity, bumping into another photon, a weak spot in the vacuum of space... I really have NO IDEA) but there had to be a reason for the photon to land where it did. Wouldn't you think?
He said no one can pinpoint - BUT physicists can say with SOME certainty!!! Not certainty!
You want a reason. Humans want reasons. Why? - is the cry of a human!
Humans can't see or hear what is happening because they want a reason for everything, they are distracted by the mind shouting 'Why?' and 'there must be a reason''. The mind now has you in it's grips, you become it's servant, you now seek an answer for the mind that cannot be found. It keeps you busy, it keeps you confused and it keeps you feeling inferior and lost.
edit on 8-12-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
I have no idea what your point is.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by jiggerj
He said that no one can pinpoint where a photon will hit a sensor, but physicists can say with some certainty that 33% of photons will land in a certain area, and a percentage will hit here and there. So, Brian throws an imaginary photon ball and it lands in that 33% region of the sensor at the end of the alley.
Now, wait a minute. If we take that one photon hit on the sensor and reverse it, we would HAVE TO find a reason for that photon to hit exactly where it did. I mean, there has to be a reason - a cause - for the photon to fly the way it did. I have no idea what those causes were (gravity, bumping into another photon, a weak spot in the vacuum of space... I really have NO IDEA) but there had to be a reason for the photon to land where it did. Wouldn't you think?
He said no one can pinpoint - BUT physicists can say with SOME certainty!!! Not certainty!
You want a reason. Humans want reasons. Why? - is the cry of a human!
Humans can't see or hear what is happening because they want a reason for everything, they are distracted by the mind shouting 'Why?' and 'there must be a reason''. The mind now has you in it's grips, you become it's servant, you now seek an answer for the mind that cannot be found. It keeps you busy, it keeps you confused and it keeps you feeling inferior and lost.
edit on 8-12-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
I have no idea what your point is.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by jiggerj
He said that no one can pinpoint where a photon will hit a sensor, but physicists can say with some certainty that 33% of photons will land in a certain area, and a percentage will hit here and there. So, Brian throws an imaginary photon ball and it lands in that 33% region of the sensor at the end of the alley.
Now, wait a minute. If we take that one photon hit on the sensor and reverse it, we would HAVE TO find a reason for that photon to hit exactly where it did. I mean, there has to be a reason - a cause - for the photon to fly the way it did. I have no idea what those causes were (gravity, bumping into another photon, a weak spot in the vacuum of space... I really have NO IDEA) but there had to be a reason for the photon to land where it did. Wouldn't you think?
He said no one can pinpoint - BUT physicists can say with SOME certainty!!! Not certainty!
You want a reason. Humans want reasons. Why? - is the cry of a human!
Humans can't see or hear what is happening because they want a reason for everything, they are distracted by the mind shouting 'Why?' and 'there must be a reason''. The mind now has you in it's grips, you become it's servant, you now seek an answer for the mind that cannot be found. It keeps you busy, it keeps you confused and it keeps you feeling inferior and lost.
edit on 8-12-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
I have no idea what your point is.
The point is that there is no point - no reason. But the mind believes there must be.
Originally posted by stupid girl
The fact that there is existence, necessitates reason.
Existence is a reaction to purpose.
Originally posted by 0mage
Originally posted by stupid girl
The fact that there is existence, necessitates reason.
Existence is a reaction to purpose.
but purpose suggests intent, which suggests intelligent direction as it's foundation. that would mean that someone or something consciously and intently made it so. that's not very scientific.
Originally posted by 0mage
Originally posted by stupid girl
The fact that there is existence, necessitates reason.
Existence is a reaction to purpose.
but purpose suggests intent, which suggests intelligent direction as it's foundation. that would mean that someone or something consciously and intently made it so. that's not very scientific.
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by chr0naut
I think it's less of a divorce, and more about a new cousin that is still being introduced. Science will work it out, but it takes time. And jumping to ridiculous theories, like those from "What the BLEEP do we know" or other pseudo-scientific mockumentaries are not going to get us there any faster.
~ Wandering Scribe
Do you deny OBE's or NDE's?
the science I believed in since 7th grade didn't add up anymore
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by 1nf1del
I'd nearly forgotten about this thread...
Do you deny OBE's or NDE's?
I don't believe in out-of-body experiences, or near-death experiences.
I believe that the brain, when it is oxygen-starved, hallucinates and experiences things which aren't really happening. Usually these experiences are fueled by subconscious belief patterns. Perhaps this explains why ancient Egyptians who had a near-death experience saw the Duat and the Fields of Osiris; and why ancient Greeks who had near-death experiences saw the Asphodel Meadows; and why Hindus who have near-death experiences see the Bardos; and why Christians who have near-death experiences see Jesus and their families.
the science I believed in since 7th grade didn't add up anymore
What exactly didn't add up? Computers work, cars operate, vaccines vaccinate, GPS can pinpoint my position, chemical reactions still work how they did when I tested them in high school... what exactly has changed about science that suddenly "doesn't add up" which did before?
By the way, I'm not an atheist.
~ Wandering Scribe
How about people who have NDE's and see something purposely placed high up on a shelf where the person would otherwise not even know about it, this was something I used to believe as well but you can't explain this phenomena away so easily!
Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
reply to post by 1nf1del
How about people who have NDE's and see something purposely placed high up on a shelf where the person would otherwise not even know about it, this was something I used to believe as well but you can't explain this phenomena away so easily!
I can quite simply refute that.
In scientific trials and experiments, where astral projectors and others who experience various out-of-body-phenomenon were tested under controlled conditions, they failed to identify hidden objects, objects on top of wardrobes, the time on clocks, and much, much more.
It is only in the tabloid stories, and the tales of a friend's friend's friend's aunt's cousin, where people claim to identify shoes on top of buildings, or missing pocket watches, and other similar episodes. Such a psychic capability has never been demonstrated once under scientific scrutiny.
~ Wandering Scribe