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Christian group says demon sex makes you gay (seriously?)

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posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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The reigning scientific consensus on sexual orientation is that it’s an inherited, biological trait, but that’s just because scientists don’t know how to party. A far sexier explanation has been offered up by Christian magazine Charisma, which conducted its own investigation into the origins of homosexuality to reveal the real culprit: sex with demons. “Can demons engage in sexual behaviors with humans?” the magazine asks. Why yes, they can! At least according to the article’s primary source, a former stripper-turned-ministry leader named Contessa Adams. Adams shares her decades-long struggle with demon sex, sparing no horrible, sexy detail:

These spiritual rapists, as Adams describes them in her book, Consequences, often prey on people by performing sexual acts through nightmares and erotic dreams. Some people become so dependent upon these demonic experiences that they actually look forward to them. “Anybody that has been attacked by them will tell you … they’re worried [that] they could not find that pleasure with mortal people,” says Adams, who claims she was once possessed by sexual demons.

The two most identifiable sexual demons are the incubus, which is a male sexual demon that traditionally assaults women, and the succubus, which is a female sexual demon that assaults men. Sometimes they also lure people into homosexual behavior. Adams says the succubus spirit that used to attack her confused her so much that she contemplated becoming a lesbian. Then God came along and ruined everything, I mean saved her, putting her on the path to righteousness and helping others who are (naked) wrestling with their own sex demons. But demons aren’t just about getting laid. They’re wreaking havoc all over the place, in addition to the mischief they’ve wrought on confused Christian genitalia. The primary demon fighter in the modern Christian world is the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), a global network of Charismatic Christian ministries devoted to Dominionism, the idea that they must take over public institutions in order to save America and the world from … demons (and gays, of course). NAR is ridiculous, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t powerful, with millions of followers worldwide and domestic and international political relationships ranging from Senator Sam Brownback, Mike Huckabee and Newt Gingrich to heads of state in Uganda.

Bruce Wilson, who’s reported on the
movement for years, tells Alternet, “for the apostles and prophets of the New Apostolic Reformation, demon powers, and also divine curses — incurred by human unfaithfulness to God’s plan, are at the root of virtually any and all conceivable misfortunes, from crime trends, drops in the stock market, and declining SAT scores, to headaches and dandruff. I mean that literally.” The movement broke into mainstream political coverage a few times in recent years: once, when reporters obtained footage of a bizarre ceremony involving Sarah Palin, and also during the interminable Republican primary when Rick Perry, long-rumored to have wrestled a few sexy gay demons himself, hosted a massive prayer rally organized by two NAR ministries. NPR reported at the time that the Perry rally was modeled on the prayer events of the Call, a NAR group founded by apostle Lou Engle. As Rachel Tabachnik, who’s done extensive reporting on NAR, told NPR, “The apostles teach what’s called ‘strategic level spiritual warfare’ [because they believe that the] reason why there is sin and corruption and poverty on the Earth is because the Earth is controlled by a hierarchy of demons under the authority of Satan.”


silly little gooses


I mean really? people actually believe this stuff?

get back to reality people


edit on 28-11-2012 by lobotomizemecapin because: (no reason given)




posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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Result of brainwashing, indoctrination, ignorance and delusion.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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By demons they mean, psychological issues. Usually something innate from childhood like a motherly or fatherly issue. Then again it is also possible that it is innate within the newborn child just as something such a downs syndrome is innate to a newborn child. Both are completely natural occurrences, but can be labeled as defects.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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“Can demons engage in sexual behaviors with humans?” the magazine asks. Why yes, they can! At least according to the article’s primary source, a former stripper-turned-ministry leader named Contessa Adams. Adams shares her decades-long struggle with demon sex, sparing no horrible, sexy detail:


Uh... Ok.

I already have rough sleep as it is, not planning to worry about homo-demon-rapists...



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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I have sex with demons all the time and I'm not gay. They must have it confused with being raped by your uncle who is a fundamentalist minister.
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posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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There are fringe elements of every group... and all Christians should not be judged on this stupidity.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by boncho

“Can demons engage in sexual behaviors with humans?” the magazine asks. Why yes, they can! At least according to the article’s primary source, a former stripper-turned-ministry leader named Contessa Adams. Adams shares her decades-long struggle with demon sex, sparing no horrible, sexy detail:


Uh... Ok.

I already have rough sleep as it is, not planning to worry about homo-demon-rapists...


Demons randomly posses people too! So it could be anybody... I could be doing anything, chilling, camping or something. All of a sudden one of my mates gets possessed and turns into a raging homosexual rapist with weird overly-powering strength

# just got real.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 01:41 PM
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Now THAT is funny.....I don't care who you are!!!



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Jauk3
Result of brainwashing, indoctrination, ignorance and delusion.


Does this go for all belief systems or just Christianity? If it is indicative to all believe systems then it goes for whatever indoctrination you received as a child.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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It would be funny if the notion was not endorsed by NAR. Their ultimate goal is to bring a Christian version of Sharia law into the world. "Gay demons" would be a viable subject in court proceedings if they had their way.

And btw, demon sex is awesome.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 06:03 PM
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The prevailing scientific belief is NOT that gayness is inheriited. Among people who know about these things; psychologists for instance, it is generally acknowledged that at least a portion of it is due to trauma.

Sexuality is a portal for spiritual forces to get in. So if a person is traumatized and upset having sex could lead to them being vulnerable to demonic forces. So what these Christians believe although it seems primitive, it's not really that far fetched. This is why sexual abuse of children is so destructive. Because while the child is having some kind of sexual reaction, the gunk and evil from the perpetrator is getting into them.

See things is life are not all black and white. Either you're a smart scientist and you deny anything intangible and everything is inherited or you're a loony tune religious nut and everything you think is superstition. It's not that simple.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Hillarie
The prevailing scientific belief is NOT that gayness is inheriited. Among people who know about these things; psychologists for instance, it is generally acknowledged that at least a portion of it is due to trauma.

Sexuality is a portal for spiritual forces to get in. So if a person is traumatized and upset having sex could lead to them being vulnerable to demonic forces. So what these Christians believe although it seems primitive, it's not really that far fetched. This is why sexual abuse of children is so destructive. Because while the child is having some kind of sexual reaction, the gunk and evil from the perpetrator is getting into them.

See things is life are not all black and white. Either you're a smart scientist and you deny anything intangible and everything is inherited or you're a loony tune religious nut and everything you think is superstition. It's not that simple.


There is no doubt that sex is a powerful tool in the arcane tool box and there is also no doubt that evil sexual activity can lead to self destruction.

However, neither of those have anything to do with being gay. I can connect the dots between quarterbacks and date rapes but I wouldn't say that football makes a person into a rapist.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by Hillarie
The prevailing scientific belief is NOT that gayness is inheriited. Among people who know about these things; psychologists for instance, it is generally acknowledged that at least a portion of it is due to trauma.


that sounds like an opinion with no real evidence to back it up. There is plenty of evidence showing that being gay is more than just a psychosis.




Sexuality is a portal for spiritual forces to get in. So if a person is traumatized and upset having sex could lead to them being vulnerable to demonic forces. So what these Christians believe although it seems primitive, it's not really that far fetched. This is why sexual abuse of children is so destructive. Because while the child is having some kind of sexual reaction, the gunk and evil from the perpetrator is getting into them.


See this is just flat out silly... Show me proof that sexuality is a "portal for spiritual forces". or proof of demonic forces. You sound just as out there as these folks




See things is life are not all black and white. Either you're a smart scientist and you deny anything intangible and everything is inherited or you're a loony tune religious nut and everything you think is superstition. It's not that simple.


there are many in between you should stop looking at people in black and white and see that just bc science doesnt believe in fairy tales they still have open minds and are smart enough to realize they know very little of reality
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posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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More likely it makes a person disinclined to have sex with any human, since the experience (when consensual) feels so much greater than that with a mere mortal.
Which sort of defeats the point if you originally wanted an actual physical partner, I guess.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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Most cited biological research studies on the genetic predisposition to homosexual behavior

Sexual preference is psychological impulse behavior, not physiological systematic behavior.

I suppose the individuals cited in the OP could still possibly label the impetus for that impulse as some sort of negative spiritual influence.
However, as human beings we are faced with decisions every single day throughout our entire lives. Regardless of the nature of our influences, we are all still ultimately in control of, and responsible for, our own actions.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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Can't have sex with demons. A demon is just the spirit of a dead nephilim (fallen angel/human hybrid). The most widely accepted misconception is that Fallen Ones are demons and that is just not true. Neither does Satan have cloven hooves a pitchfork or horns on his head and a spike tail, that is medievel gobbledegook.

As for homosexuality having spiritual implications, it appears to certainly effect a person's spirit, otherwise there wouldn't be homosexuals still hiding in the closet on the down low, feeling shame and despair.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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well that is one way to draw a crowd. Talk about sex...and if you need a religious crowd, talk about religious sex, with an ex stripper...aha...

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posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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That's a bit misleading.

The latest date cited in these papers is 1999. Hardly the kind of thing I woudl consider proof of homosexuality being a psychological event than a biological one.

Recent studies have shown things like exposure to testosterone can be a factor. The studies presented above and even those I link here are hardly conclusive.


A 2010 study, Garcia-Falgueras and Swaab asserted that "the fetal brain develops during the intrauterine period in the male direction through a direct action of testosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hormone surge. In this way, our gender identity (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and sexual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender identity or sexual orientation."[33]

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To say with certainty that one hypothesis is more valid than the other, in current scientific terms, with the current data, is just false.

Why are people gay? The question of how homosexual orientation originates has been the subject of much press, with the general impression being promoted that homosexuality is largely a matter of genes, rather than environmental factors. However, if one examines the scientific literature, one finds that it's not quite as clear as the news bytes would suggest.

The early studies that reported differences in the brains of homosexuals were complicated by HIV infection and were not substantiated by larger, better controlled studies. Numerous studies reported that possible hormonal differences affected homosexual orientation.

However, these studies were often directly contradictory, and never actually measured any hormone levels, but just used proxies for hormonal influences, without direct evidence that the proxies were actually indicative of true hormone levels or imbalances.

Twin studies showed that there likely are genetic influences for homosexuality, although similar studies have shown some genetic influences for homophobia and even opposition to abortion. Early childhood abuse has been associated with homosexuality, but, at most, only explains about 10% of those who express a homosexual orientation.

The fact that sexual orientation is not constant for many individuals, but can change over time suggests that at least part of sexual orientation is actually sexual preference. Attempts to find a "gay gene" have never identified any gene or gene product that is actually associated with homosexual orientation, with studies failing to confirm early suggestions of linkage of homosexuality to region Xq28 on the X chromosome.

The question of genetic influences on sexual orientation has been recently examined using DNA microarray technology, although, the results have largely failed to pinpoint specific genes as a factor in sexual orientation.


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Certainly we can agree that genes are not the only marker we can study or look at when attempting to determine the answer to this question.

As for the topic. No...that doesn't cause you to become gay. Period.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Can't have sex with demons.


Speak for yourself - some say they were raped by demons (incubus / succubus). And some who can astral project know for a fact that spirit sex exist.


Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
As for homosexuality having spiritual implications, it appears to certainly effect a person's spirit, otherwise there wouldn't be homosexuals still hiding in the closet on the down low, feeling shame and despair.


Probably has something to do with the fact that homosexuality is looked down upon by many. Of course, if homosexuality is looked down upon some would be scared to say that they are homosexual out of fear of rejection. Humans happen to be social beings and care what others think about them - even if it is something irrational like having an interest in books and being labeled a "nerd" or anything else that isn't "cool" , "hip" or called "normal" by many...



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by arpgme
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Can't have sex with demons.


Speak for yourself - some say they were raped by demons (incubus / succubus). And some who can astral project know for a fact that spirit sex exist.


As the Emerald Tablets of Thoth put it so eloquently, "That which is below is like that which is above that which is above is like that which is below to do the miracles of one only thing."

Virtually everything we experience in our scientifically-observable realm is a direct analog to something in realms beyond. This is why people report afterlife scenarios as being able to "see" and "hear" even though they were without body. It seems strange to think that the astral realms would emulate our biology but it's actually quite the opposite. We emulate it. Sexuality is of course included as a sensation possessing an reciprocated counterpart in the spiritual realms.









 
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