PLO Rejects US Demand to Prohibit War Crimes Charges Against Israel

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posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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The US pushed Palestine to add a clause in UN bid barring war crimes charges against Israel . What are they afraid of?


The Palestinians have refused demands from Washington that it soften the wording of the proposed United Nations resolution regarding the recognition of a Palestinian state.


WikiLeaks has revealed that one of the primary reasons behind Israeli objections to Palestinian statehood is that lack of statehood keeps Palestinian territories outside the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC).

Why would US want to protect Israel from prosecution at ICC ?
If US truly believed Israel hadn't committed war crimes, such an effort wouldn't be necessary.

Any thought ?




posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Possibly because the US would be implicated in some of these war crimes. If not that then they may be implicated in some form of complacency with regards to incidents that have happened over the years.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 12:00 PM
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Oh yeah , Bush Jr . will be the 1st person to face the trial at ICC from US
Tony Blair will be the selected from UK
Netanyahu from Israel



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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Well with the US supporting Israel militarily and financially for decades, could they be concerned that war crimes charges may eventually reach and affect the Whitehouse?

Why the hell would/should PLO even consider letting US and Israel off the hook for war crimes?



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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The issue of war crimes committed lays not upon just Israel alone.

It lays practically upon the ENTIRE middle east and the world, if ICC is to be pettitioned for the justification of war crimes.

MAJORITY of nations in our world are guilty of war crimes, one way or another, since the independence of Israel in 1948. British, Middle East states, had launch wars of conquest unilaterally and oppression upon the palestinians as well as Israelites, and each of these 2 parties are equally guilty of war crimes upon each other.

Even Yasser Arafat, the revered palestinian leader of PLO, is the falther of all war crimes for the terrorism they had launched upon innocent people and not on combatants alone.

There will be no end to ICC civil cases. Some nutjob may even attempt to bring the defunct Ottoman empire into the court to seek for justice, making a mockery of the entire judical process.

We can no longer change the past, but we can still change the future. Thousands had died on all sides. It is time to let the matter of Palestine rest, for the sake of the living and future innocent generations.

To pursue the past will only harm the fragile peace of today, turning it into decades more of animosity between neighbours in the Middle East when peace to progress and evolve is sorely needed.

Yasser Arafat of the PLO was prepared to let the matter of the past rest, and so did Israel. It is time to honor the dead that their deaths will not be in vain for the peace of today and future generations.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by UltraMarine
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Oh yeah , Bush Jr . will be the 1st person to face the trial at ICC from US
Tony Blair will be the selected from UK
Netanyahu from Israel


You will never see bush there. The US does not respect the ICC because they are heavily biased. Some of their past decisions have showed that.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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lets turn thi around - if " palestine " wants statehood - are they prepared to be held accountable for thir war crimes



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
We can no longer change the past, but we can still change the future. Thousands had died on all sides. It is time to let the matter of Palestine rest, for the sake of the living and future innocent generations.


Yes the future can change by finally FORCING Israel to answer for its crimes. Otherwise they will just continuously repeat the past because they know nothing will happen to them.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
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lets turn thi around - if " palestine " wants statehood - are they prepared to be held accountable for thir war crimes


Who is holding Israel responsible for their war crimes - and they have statehood. They broke their charter with the UN by seeking to illegally expand their borders that the UN gave to Israel. They attacked the USS Liberty which was an act of war that murdered over 30 US serviceman and injured over 170 others.

I'd say, Let the people of Palestine have their state and then charge them with any war crimes thereafter - As well as charge Israel with their crimes after they obtained statehood.

Good thing I'm not in the white house, I'd warn the Israeli civilians to run and cover then bomb the heck out of their government buildings while sending assassin teams to kill the Israeli leaders.

The US should adopt a smart foreign policy. They should sanction every country that's currently at war. who are the aggressors.
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posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by yuppa

Originally posted by UltraMarine
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Oh yeah , Bush Jr . will be the 1st person to face the trial at ICC from US
Tony Blair will be the selected from UK
Netanyahu from Israel


You will never see bush there. The US does not respect the ICC because they are heavily biased. Some of their past decisions have showed that.


The USA is? Yes... you are right...

The US doesn't respect the ICC because the USA doesn't seem to respect human life outside the borders of the USA. One easily gets the feeling that the USA thinks the world is one big buffet for them alone and the terrorist state of Israel is a gateway to the fastlane.

The USA doesn't respect the ICC because in all honesty the USA should be put there in trial for a lot of the bull # they have pulled of during their so-called quest for democracy and freedom.

The USA knows they have dirty dirty filthy hands and being able to put the terrorist state of Israel to the ICC would in the end bite the USA in the arse because the ties between the USA and the terrorist state of Israel is tighter and more intimate than the public can endure to see.

I congratulate Abbas on him standing fast, and advice him to remain vigilant and have faith. Tomorrow the UN will past the bill and Israel will be hard pressed to do what is right instead of succumbing to the will of the insane psychopaths that rule through Zionism and religious jewish extremism.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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The USA doesn't respect the ICC because in all honesty the USA should be put there in trial for a lot of the bull # they have pulled of during their so-called quest for democracy and freedom.


Very, very good point. Despite the fact that they say, and most Americans believe, that the US has been a promoter of democracy throughout the world, time and time again the US has done the opposite. The US has been responsible for supporting more dictators and thereby helping in more deaths around the world than just about any other country.

Mossadeq in Iran is a great example. He was democratically elected by the people and if the US really respected democracy they would have left him alone. But he was going to nationalize the oil, taking the profits away from big oil, so he had to go. Who did the US install? The Shah, and not only that, the CIA helped set up SAVAK.


SAVAK (was the secret police, domestic security and intelligence service established by Iran's Mohammad Reza Shah with the help of the United States' Central Intelligence Agency (the CIA).[1] SAVAK operated from 1957 to 1979, when the Pahlavi dynasty was overthrown. SAVAK has been described as Iran's "most hated and feared institution" prior to the revolution of 1979 because of its practice of torturing and executing opponents of the Pahlavi regime


Yep, certainly sounds like supporting democracy around the world to me. I agree with the people that said the US wants to protect Israel from the ICC because they will inevitably be dragged in too.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 12:09 AM
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The ICC tries individuals not states. It is the International Court of Justice that Israel is affected by. In any case as long as a state is signed to the Rome Statute the ICC has jurisdiction over it.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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Why the hell would/should PLO even consider letting US and Israel off the hook for war crimes?


Good Point . There is no need to accept US / UK offer as majority of countries around the globe are with them . Palestine will gain a lot after winning this Upgrade at UN . 1 day , all the individuals who killed or helped to kill the innocent Palestinians will be facing trial at ICC ..


edit on 29-11-2012 by UltraMarine because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by UltraMarine
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Why the hell would/should PLO even consider letting US and Israel off the hook for war crimes?


Good Point . There is no need to accept US / UK offer as majority of countries around the globe are with them . Palestine will gain a lot after winning this Upgrade at UN . 1 day , all the individuals who killed or helped to kill the innocent Palestinians will be facing trial at ICC ..


edit on 29-11-2012 by UltraMarine because: (no reason given)


And one day pigs will fly and the world will sing cumbiya. Seriously you would see Israel nuke the rest of the world first.The war crimes works both ways though.If i was israel I would file a case for fraud,seeing as how the PLO stated time and again in interviews they were not palestinians.






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