Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Merriman Weir
There IS a disproportionate problem with paedophilia and sex abuse within those of rural Pakistani origin - there's nothing racist about recognising
and accepting this, it in no way implies that there is a disproportionate problem with all Muslims.
And we will never begin the process of reducing the risk and instances of paedophilia until we ALL accept the facts and realities without rancour and
I think I was the first on the threads here to really argue the specifics about the Rochdale case(s), that not only was it not a Muslim issue, it
wasn't even a Pakistani issue as a lot of the men came from the same poor, relatively rural area and seemed to have transplanted a community (and
their 'way of life/thinking') from one place to another. Unfortunately, I was having to do that because, people do
see this as a
"disproportionate problem with all Muslims."
This process ceased with the apparent mishandling of the McAlpine affair - the facts of which just don't make sense when any reasonable level
of scrutiny is applied.
I agree and I've commented on this myself on several threads. Baffling, truly, baffling.
The public were convinced of the BBC's malpractice and the appointment of a new overseer seems to have reigned the Beeb in.
Well, to be fair, all the right wing press didn't really give the public an alternative. It's been open season on the BBC since 2010.
And then a dead, fat, Liberal politician who conveniently represented an already tainted community has been offered up as a lamb to slaughter
which seems to satisfy the publics lust for blood.
Not so sure about this. As I've said before, I'm only a couple of miles from Rochdale, and there's nothing really convenient about Cyril Smith. It
was an open secret up here and one which Smith had threatened to sue small local press over on a couple of occasions. The 'lust for Smith's blood'
existed before the Rochdale Muslim cases and before most people were aware of the Savile stories.
It seemed to me that the revelations were part of an organised process whose purpose has yet to be revealed, however, this process was
hamstringed by the McAlpine affair with the overall result of a few dead or has-been minor celebrities and an irrelevant MP's reputations tarnished
and discredited - but no more discussion about the doings of both past and present politicians and their nefarious associates.
Having worked in a local propaganda unit, I can't deny that this happens. The overall aim of this is not unique to this kind of scenario though,
it's the nature of elitism. Think how many middle-managers will always be thrown under the bus before a director gets the push. There will be a whole
dressing room of Freddie Starrs banged-up before someone of MacAlpine's stature gets to see the inside of a prison.
MSM leap on instances like this in Cornwall to maintain the illusion that paedophilia is a rare occurrence and generally only practiced by
those already outside of the usual social norms or the poor and depraved - whereas the troth is unfortunately much different.
Not sure about this, I think any story only increases the public's awareness and underline the fact that it's not a rarity. If anything these
stories work the other way. It creates the impression that they
are everywhere: whether it's paedophiles, Muslim terrorists, benefit cheats,
or communists (included the latter for the Americans following the thread).
The conspiracy theorist in me can not help but wonder that there appears to be two seperate agenda's at play and not being able to resist the
odd piece of wild speculation I can't but help wonder if there is some sort of schism or disagreement within the ranks of 'the
The conspiracy theorist in me
thinks this all the time. 'Unified conspiracy theories of everything' don't make any sense to me. The idea
that one cabal can ever really run anything doesn't make sense and disregards human nature. People shaft each other constantly, or will try to,
wherever there's power or money. Look at the history of Royalty, the history of the mafia, the boardrooms of Big Business. Reptilian overlords aside,
even our elites are human with all human flaws. We acknowledge they're greedy bastards from the start, it's not unreasonable to think that some are
greedier than others and are willing to sell out even their own kind.