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reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 09:22 PM by timmhaines
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I would say no. If other worlds didn't exist how did we come to be.


reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 09:36 PM by chr0naut
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I'd like it to be the case.

After seriously studying the creation of technologies that were supposedly "back-engineered", in every case, I have seen technological growth through progressive understandings, many being formed up to a hundred years prior to the technology.

So, from me, a no.

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reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 09:53 PM by Dynamike
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I doubt that a being capable of faster than light travel (If we have been visited for arguments sake) would have traveled galaxies just to crash into a planet because of a little gravity. But lets say they did. Maybe they were shot down (chortle). We have no sign of sudden technological advancement. And we all know how much power comes with money. No one and nothing could stop someone from using advanced technology for financial gain.


reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 10:03 PM by furono
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A planet with newly acquired ready for war radar that wouldn't care about directing powerful waves at anybody in sky, wouldn't catch an advanced civilization off guard??? The galaxy is huge my friend! Religion is a brain wash into thinking that some one mighty being that we imagined in caves cares about little O us or that we are so advanced we reign over the whole galaxy. Ants we don't care about, why would somebody far more advanced care about us, until we evolve??
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reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 10:34 PM by roguetechie
No I don't believe it for a second... as a matter of fact I think a case can be made for someone or something or a group of someones or somethings has actively done everything they can to hold us back in certain areas for the last 80 years or so!

Some of this can be written off to inventors without the good sense god gave a mule failing to bring their superior technologies to fruition but not all of it by any means!

Maybe all of you that believe in this alien technology moving us ahead faster myth should:

1: Give more credit to humanity. We are pretty damn smart and capable
2. Ask yourself who would benefit from convincing people that not only is technology not being suppressed but
but that there is instead an outside source responsible for much of our technological progress.
3. Question why you are being conditioned to believe that humanity isn't capable of making said advances
without outside help.
4. And finally you should ask yourself who benefits from all of this? And how do they benefit from all of this?
And is this just a continuation of a multi generational campaign to keep the common man from seeing that
not only is there plenty to go around for everyone, but that even with our current technology there is no excuse
for the squalor and starvation that runs rampant on this planet!

Once you have done all of these things you should dust yourself off and look around and try to do your part to not just push the cutting edge even further even faster but also ruthlessly deal with anyone who attempts to keep humanity from reaching it's full potential for their selfish gain in power or prosperity!


reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 10:41 PM by FireMoon
I'm in the no camp , not to say governments worldwide haven't bust a gut trying to "capture" whatever the phenomenon is however these days, I am of a mind they know as little and often a lot less, than many of us the great unwashed. I strongly suspect they deliberately put out false information to make out they have such evidence for a number of reasons.

1, Control freaks run governments and the military, it's a prerequisite of being in those positions, ergo their very psyche is built on the foundation of "If I don't know you don't know however, I am never going to admit that we don't know,, so the subject is ridiculed, ignored and probably both at the same time".

2. Certain arms of government, in an effort to ascertain whether some of us, the great unwashed, have access to information they don;t put out false rumours in order to curry favour and attempt to tease out what an individual might know that they don't. That is, "If we say that these documents exist then someone else who has actually made their own studies might float to the surface publicly and have information we want we don't already have"

3. There are undoubtedly a few cases where they can write off secret new craft as UFOs, so that has its' uses

4 Propaganda. The USA used both Atom Bombs they had in 1945 and not for wholly strategic reasons. They used their whole arsenal, in part, to convince the Russians they had loads and could afford to drop them any time. Likewise, by planting false rumours such as the, totally mythical TR3-B. the USA has constantly played on idea that they might have something no-one else does, in terms of technology and therefore are not to be messed with.


There's one cheap, made for TV, alien film which has a fascinating passage in it. Sorry can;t remember the name of the film , the one part did stand out for me though. Some high ranking secret military bod is explaining about the alien threat to the film's hero and the hero asks about the "Roswell incident"

The military bod replies something like.

"Oh damn ,don't talk about Roswell, the damned ship responded, in part to thought processes and some darned fool was viewing it thought, "Methane Gas" and the damned ship evaporated in front of our eyes and was flushed our of the A/C system.".

That did make me chortle and sometimes I suspect, something similar might well have happened in reality, at some point in the past.
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reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 10:57 PM by SloAnPainful
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I agree. I mean we did advance quickly within the last one hundred years.

I think we got something and possibly reversed enginered it or it was given to them over time.

But we will really never know.

-SAP-


reply posted on 28-11-2012 @ 10:59 PM by milomilo
as a long time follower of UFO phenomena , personally i am inclined toward the non EBE explanation. After following the UFO cases from FSR magazine (Flying Saucer Magazine) and reading some books , i gravitated toward Vallee's hypothesis (non EBE).

the nuts and bolts UFO and the Roswell / crashed disk story is a new phenomenon (relatively) and it is tied so close with conspiracy/anti-goverment that it become muddled and put in limelight as the "current" popular view of UFO-logy.

If one follow historical UFO phenomenon from the ancient times (not from 1947 Ken Arnold's sighting), then one can gather that this phenomenon exist in old times , in different form, always changing depending on which cultural level of that era. It seems this phenomenon moulded their appearance with the people's BELIEF and the conclusion is they are hiding something, they never want people to know who they really are, they keep pretending to be another type of being (Aliens, Fairies, gods).

so in short,

- i do not believe any GOVERMENT had crashed saucer or EBE or artifacts..
- i believe GOVERMENT operatives is just as clueless as ordinary people regarding these phenomenon
- i believe in the old saying "never contribute to malice that can be attributed to stupidity" applied to goverment regarding their UFO knowledge.
- i believe there will come a time , that these beings will show themselves in FORCE to humanity and pretend they will bring peace to earth while in reality they are doing their own agenda.
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