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Originally posted by delusion
Okay, according to you can you estimate how many degrees that covers 180, 60?
I don't quite see how the size of the room would change the fact that he rotates.
Originally posted by Ove38
Originally posted by delusion
Okay, according to you can you estimate how many degrees that covers 180, 60?
I don't quite see how the size of the room would change the fact that he rotates.
there's about 60 meters from one end of this image to the other end, that covers 360 degrees
The Solar Wind Composition Experiment was performed on Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, and 16. It consisted of an aluminum foil sheet, 1.4 meters by 0.3 meters, that was deployed on a pole facing the sun. On Apollo 16, a platinum sheet was also used. This foil was exposed to the sun for periods ranging from 77 minutes on Apollo 11 to 45 hours on Apollo 16, allowing solar-wind particles to embed themselves into the foil. The foil was then returned to Earth for laboratory analysis. This allowed the chemical composition of the embedded solar wind to be determined more accurately than would be possible if the measurement were made using remotely controlled instruments on the Moon, but limited the periods at which observations could be made.
Originally posted by delusion
Another experiment that can only have been done because the astronauts were PHYSICALY there to gather the data, is the solar wind experiment.
Originally posted by Ove38
Originally posted by tigercat1971
The original problem still remains : there are no tyre tracks and given that quite clealry there are footprints then there is absolutely no reason whatsoever why there should not be any tyre tracks. Whatever reason can be invented to excuse the lack of visibility of tyre tracks would be applicable to the footprints.
no tyre tracks
Photo no. 1: AS17-137-20979HR
Photo no. 2: AS15-85-11470HR
Photo no. 3: AS15-88-11901HR
Photo no. 4: AS17-143-21932HR
Photo no. 5: AS15-88-11902HR
The only stupid explanation given, is that the rovers were not so heavy on the moon, so that the astronauts could carry them around, which would explain why there are bootprints, but no tyre tracks. LOL
Originally posted by nOraKat
I guess nobody has an explanation for the absence of the TIRE tracks.
Picture of the replacement fender taken at about 143:46:34 by Gene Cernan, just before driving off from Station 2. Jack Schmitt is already seated. The dust-coated- originally-blue Traverse Gravimeter is mounted on the back of the Rover just above the replacement fender. Gene took this photo, in part, to document its condition after the 9.1 kilometer drive out from the LM and, in part, to document his handiwork. At the end of EVA-3 Gene decided to bring the fender back to Earth and, as of the late 1990s, it was still on display at the National Air & Space Museum in Washington D.C. Ron Creel has provided a summary ( 1.3 Mb PDF ) of the fender extension losses that occurred on all three Rover missions.
The astronauts did, indeed, leave a lot of stuff on the moon, including their backpacks (known as the PLSS, or Personal Life Support System). The only way the astronauts could throw stuff out of the Lunar lander was to open the door. They were able to toss their PLSS's because, after their final EVA they hooked their suits into the Life Support systems aboard the lunar lander.
Seismic sensors left on the surface by the astronauts even recorded the thumps of the gear hitting the moon. As Mission Control radioed to the two explorers: "We observed your equipment jettison on the TV, and the passive seismic experiment recorded shocks when each PLSS hit the surface" Armstrong responded, "You can't get away with anything anymore, can you?"
Q: Did our astronauts really go there?
AC: I know there has been a lot of talk about this. Many of the pictures that you have seen from the surface of the moon were faked, because the actual pictures showed that there was "stuff" all over the place. Yes, they did go, but there was manipulation of the result involved.
143:03:51 Dave is probably testing the Rover steering prior to maneuvering the Rover into a down-Sun heading so that he can re-initialize the navigation system based on the known position of the Sun. In this down-Sun photo, we can see the ALSEP in the background and, on the Rover, the maps and 16-mm movie camera mounted on the accessory staff forward of Jim's seat and the tool rack at the back of the vehicle. The umbrella-shaped high-gain antenna at the front of the Rover is pointed straight up, the TV is in its stowed position, the low-gain antenna just forward of Dave is pointed straight up. The small bag mounted on the back of Jim's seat is the BSLSS (Buddy Secondary Life Support System) bag ( 159k ) which contains a set of hoses and fittings which would allow the astronauts to share cooling water in case one of them lost cooling. Note the rearward fender extensions on both visible fenders. During the flight out from Earth, these were stacked onto the forward sections and, during deployment, the astronauts slid these extensions aft on guide rails until they locked into place. On both Apollo 16 and 17, the Commanders accidentally tore the right rear extension off by walking too close and brushing against them. Ron Creel has provided a summary ( 1.3 Mb PDF ) of the fender extension losses that occurred on all three Rover missions.
143:03:51 Jim took this excellent picture of Dave maneuvering the Rover at the start of the EVA-2 traverse. The Solar Wind Collector is visible beyond the Rover TV camera. At the front of the Rover, we can see the closed battery covers. In front of Jim's seat, we can see his footrests. Note that there is dust coming off the wheels as Dave maneuvers. This picture also gives us a good view of Dave's RCU-mounted Hasselblad camera and of the wire Rover wheels. The traverse maps are mounted on Jim's handhold and the Buddy Secondary Life Support System (BSLSS) bag is hanging from the back of Jim's seat. A high-resolution detail ( 169k ) shows Dave's Hasselblad, the DAC, the handcontroller, and the traverse map. Note the RCU bracket mounted on the back of the DAC.
Originally posted by ArbiterOfTheiPhones
reply to post by WWu777
This is some of the most amazing evidence I have seen. I will ask for a debate next week at my debating club on this topic, since this evidence is so amazing!
Originally posted by ArbiterOfTheiPhones
reply to post by WWu777
This is some of the most amazing evidence I have seen. I will ask for a debate next week at my debating club on this topic, since this evidence is so amazing!
Originally posted by ArbiterOfTheiPhones
reply to post by WWu777
This is some of the most amazing evidence I have seen. I will ask for a debate next week at my debating club on this topic, since this evidence is so amazing!
Originally posted by delusion
Originally posted by nOraKat
I guess nobody has an explanation for the absence of the TIRE tracks.
Yep you win, I guess not seeing tracks in a few selected photos means the WHOLE THING was faked.
Originally posted by MortPenguin
I really considered this idea of the LEM being on a different angle. But this photo looks flat as the posts pic you thought was uneven aswell.
When the horizon is straightened this becomes clearer (so many apollo 11 photos do this). I drew in approx where Buzz is in the reverse photo. This also appears completely flat all the way to the horizon. I drew in the approx location of the photographer as well. Please don't just insult me or tell me these are grossly uneven. Show me the uneveness.
Originally posted by Ove38
Originally posted by delusion
Originally posted by nOraKat
I guess nobody has an explanation for the absence of the TIRE tracks.
Yep you win, I guess not seeing tracks in a few selected photos means the WHOLE THING was faked.
No one says "the WHOLE THING was faked" it was partly faked, we are only discussing which parts were faked. I believe a part of the rockets went to the moon, I believe the landers lander on the moon, I believe equipment were deployed on the Moon's surface, but I don't believe any of the twelve (69-72) astronauts walked on the Moon's surface, that part was faked on earth. The Apollo missions were only robotic missions to the moon.