posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 05:41 PM
reply to post by PatrickGarrow17
It’s a very simple idea. When Abbas goes before the UN, he shouldn’t ask for recognition of an independent state. Instead, he should say the
following: “Israel occupied the West Bank and Gaza 45 years ago, and shows no interest in letting go of the West Bank, in particular. We, the
Palestinian people, recognize two things: The first is that we are not strong enough to push the Israelis out. Armed resistance is a path to nowhere.
The second is that the occupation is permanent. The Israelis are here to stay. So we are giving up our demand for independence. Instead, we are simply
asking for the vote. Israel rules our lives. We should be allowed to help pick Israel’s rulers
What exactly is it about that section that would -----
highlight the plight, oppression, and inequality of Palestinians.
Not sure that it is easy to draw an analogy here because the Palestinian situation is fairly unique. The State of Israel was created with set borders.
Through wars and takeovers it increased that holding until the 1967 borders were set. They have since then expanded their land grab such that little
of what was Palestine is left.
I would ask you to put yourself in the shoes of a Palestinian. I have no idea where you live, but where ever it is assume for a minute that your
neighbouring country or State is laying claim to areas all around where you live. This country is destroying your livelihood, chopping down your
orchards and diverting your water. Would YOU take that sitting down and say - "it is inevitable. Let's just get the vote and get on with it."
I do not believe you can honestly say that you would.
Palestine was a country before the British were forced to grant the State of Israel it's lands out of the Palestinian Protectorate. The real mistake
was not to have made Palestine a State as well at that time.
Until there is a State of Palestine I am afraid I cannot see the Palestinian people accepting any solutions that favours the very people who have
stolen their land, poisoned or diverted their water, destroyed their crops and livelihood, and denied them the ability to rebuild anything.
I will grant you that Israelis are a very different people to Palestinians and I have seen the marked difference between Israeli lands and Palestinian
lands (admittedly back in 1967 just before the 6 day war). But just because the Palestinians are are either not so adept or do not have the means to
make blooming fields out of their land does not give Israel the right to steal it.
The solution in the article does not propose a way to achieve independence. If that was offered to you would you agree to it? I know I would not.