reply to post by 1/2 Nephilim
Well, Lets get one thing straight first. Santa Claus, or rather Saint Nicholas was an actual real person. His beliefs in Jesus Christ and his
following of Jesus Christ, may be questionable to you and others who do not believe in Jesus Christ, but, the person himself, Saint Nicholas was an
actual real person. This real person, did in fact periodically throughout the year in his surrounding village, unknowingly gave to those in need
(mostly children) by leaving, coins, oranges and sometimes clothing and other foods on doorsteps...as well as yes...socks that hung on fireplaces to
be dried after they were washed, (which is where the whole christmas stocking thing comes in) So, that being said, when we pass on that tradition of
giving to each other in the name of Saint Nicholas, we are not lying, but passing on a tradiiton.
Now, on to the whole fun thing in what you believe or don't believe. That, is simply a matter of opinion. YOU may not have found it fun, or in
looking back on it, may not have remembered it being fun. But I can tell you that being in an italian family of 11 Aunts, 15 Uncles, 4 sets of Great
Grandparents, 2 sets of Grandparents, Numerous cousins (around 30+ because we are very close nit and more like brothers and sisters, and so therefore,
the children of those cousins which would be our 2nd cousins, end up calling us Aunts and Uncles instead) and 11 brothers and sisters...who each have
2 children and one of us has 3 children..along with their spouses.... there is not one person in our entire family who does not find it FUN. Or
magical, or special. My brothers and sisters and I have actually discusses this extensively because EVERYONE seems to be on this kick of "The story
of St. Nick is lying to your children" .... None of us.. not a single one of us EVER found it nor looked at is as our parents or families lying to
us. We found it to be them keeping the magic and specialness and fun alive, the same fun they experienced growing up, the same magic they remembered
growing up. Along with every other holiday myth there is
WE love it...and always have. My oldest daughter is now 11, and she has great fun in
helping me create the same magic she enjoyed with her little 5 year old sister.
When she was younger, she loved fairies and tinker bell....so every spring we would shut all the lights off in the house, (we have a huge retaining
hill with a bunch of junipers that cover the ground, I have small lights within the junipers and various little garden sculptures, including little
sprite and knome houses) and watch the fairies (fireflies) come out to play when everyone is going to sleep because it's dark. She has always loved
fairies, books, movies, stories, etc. She is 11 today as I mentioned and has an extensive fairy garden of wooden houses and furniture that she has
built herself..with mini plants all around.
So, just keep in mind, what you may find to be Lies and not so fun...may be someone else's extremely unforgettable memories and great fun as well as
the avenue to their very own imagination. I mean come on...when you watch a movie...do you believe thats real? so, then should we not allow children
to watch movies, cartoon, or read books, because...their lies and not real? or is that fun?
As for belief... that is not for you to judge. I mean, I love it when people who are not Christian, want to go on about a Christian believer being a
hypocrite and backwards and sand people beliefs, and etc etc etc...the biggest...Judgemental, and then that same person turns right around to judge
what Christians believe in. Just because your and Atheist, doesn't mean the rest of the world is. So..time to let the Santa thing go? why? because
you say so? talk about pushing an agenda. If we follow your sound judgement and let the "santa thing" go, then there are other things that will have
to be let go as well or we might be lying to our children: Any movies that are not based on factual happenings, this would include animation, as thats
not how real items look. Any books that are not based on factual happenings. Any video games, toys that cause imaginary play, oh, and you might as
well get rid of hair dye, tattoos and anything of that kind because things do not really grow that way. Lets see...ah, magicians, no more magic shows,
those are lies. Ah, stuffed animals...because it's a lie to make a child believe you can cuddle with a bear.