Originally posted by jeantherapy
Originally posted by detachedindividual
This entire notion is a myth. We will not destroy this planet, we are egotistical to think that we will.
I said ruin, not destroy. We are like children given a nice toy that proceeds to smash it all over the room. We have poisoned the air, the soil, and
the water. Our actions affect every other species on Earth in a negative fashion. We may not have destroyed the Earth, but we are surely enough
transforming it into a toxic chemical bath where it is increasingly more unlikely that any of us will live a disease free life. It's also about
morality which is about defeating your ego, not embracing it. It's egotistical to think that we have moral grounds for turning our planet into a
giant piece of litter.
I agree, but when you say we are ruining it, we are ruining it for ourselves and other species. That's what I mean.
If we did set off nuclear bombs all over the planet, that would undoubtedly end a lot of life, but what would be ruined? It's our perception of the
world around us that makes it what it is.
If there was a way to transform Mars into an Earth like planet, would that be considered "ruining" it? If there was intelligent life there already,
somehow living in that environment, they would believe we have ruined their planet by changing it.
We look at the Earth through our own mentality, and what we believe to be beautiful or pleasant, but life exists in all kinds of weird places.
I think you misunderstood what I was saying in my post. I'm Pagan, I love the world in which we live. If I could I would make it so every city was
greener, every concrete building overflowing with vines and ivy, every street lined with lawns and trees...
I believe that we are damaging our world, obviously, and we want to save what we find beautiful.
I'm just pointing out the scientific fact that the Earth will continue to support life for billions of years long after we've poisoned ourselves and
other species. It doesn't "forgive" the fact that we're doing it, I'm just stating scientific fact that many of the ecologically minded
completely ignore - and it's one of the reasons it's been such a struggle to change people for the last two decades.
If we'd spent the last twenty years explaining that the Human race will be damaged irreparably, that our kids and grand-kids will be harmed by our
pollution, waste and environmental laziness, rather than saying "save the planet!" maybe more people would be on board by now?
Humans are selfish by nature, tell them an intangible idea of Earth will die and they'll nod and go about their day. Tell them their kids and
grand-kids will not have safe water to drink, or clean air to breathe, or unpolluted natural food to eat and they might actually get off their fat ass
to make an effort.
We do need to change to make the world a cleaner place, but saying the world and all life will end is a nonsense. We'll die off, and something else
will take our place. And right now I say that probably wouldn't be such a bad thing for this planet.