Is the Christian Trinity a Conspiracy ?

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posted on Feb, 8 2013 @ 10:44 PM
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I am interested to know your viewpoint on Jesus existence before and after his time on earth.




posted on Feb, 9 2013 @ 02:15 AM
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Religion is flawed because humans are flawed
and we use a flawed book to prove it to each other!


You ask of Trinity and it is so0o0o0 in your face and no one see's it -

The Buy~Bull constantly talks of three deitys whom ARE the Trinity
God - Jesus - Satan


Yeah, I said it..
..now, don't you have something better to do with your lives.

Somebody go commit an neccesary act of kindness



posted on Feb, 11 2013 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by MrBigDave
 


I am interested to know your viewpoint on Jesus existence before and after his time on earth.


Before his birth Jesus only exhisted in the loins and mind of God. After his ascension until now, he has been sitting at the literal right hand of God. There are several verses that support this.

When you read the scripture without any preconceived notions floating around in your brain you will come to same conclusion that I have. The problem is that most people look at it through a tainted view that was handed them by someone at somepoint in their life. Trinitarians as well as the "Jesus only" people do this. We are too busy proving what we have been taught that we don't read what it actually says.

I was raised in a "Jesus only" family, where Jesus is God and he alone sits on the throne. I have studied all of the arguments and found that each side made good points, but both interpret things in a twisted way to support their beliefs. "Scripture interprets scripture" and someone should be able to determine the nature of God by using scripture alone. When Stephen saw Jesus sitting on the right hand of God, I believe that he literally saw Jesus sitting on the right hand of God. When Jesus talked of his father and god in a third person context he did so correctly, but when he spoke as God in the first person he also was correct because he had the spirit of God in him without measure. The dual nature of Christ is easy to understand if you forget all of the bologna that we have been taught. He was a man who had God in him. Some times the man would speak and other times God would speak. Its that simple!



posted on Feb, 12 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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I have heard that concept before, I am curious how you reconcile this scripture with that belief. Of coarse it also proves the trinity false as well as it shows Jesus had a beginning. And that beginning was even before Genesis 1:1 even took place.

Colossians 1:15-17


15Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,
16for through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can’t see— such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him.
17 He existed before anything was created, and he holds all creation together.


Other bibles say, " He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.."

I agree that they are two separate entities like you, however the scriptures help us to understand that whereas God Almighty is the Architect of our universe, Jesus Christ was the worker that made it through unlimited access and use of the holy spirit. God supplied the blueprint and power, which Jesus used to accomplish this task.



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 10:29 AM
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So you believe that Jesus is a God, or a person of God like in the trinity?



posted on Feb, 14 2013 @ 07:05 PM
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First of all, nowhere in the Scriptures is God referred to or called a "trinity."

Second, the word "three" is never used in reference to Who or What God is.

Third, God is never called or referred to as "a person."

Four, the holy spirit is never called "God."

Five, since Christ is the Son, He cannot also be the Father or be coequal with His Father. Christ plainly said:

"My Father is GREATER than I" (John 14:28).



posted on Feb, 24 2013 @ 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by MrBigDave
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So you believe that Jesus is a God, or a person of God like in the trinity?


If you are referring to the bible's definition of "god" status, yes. But then again Satan is called a god too.
There is a difference between these two gods and Almighty God the Father.

But you never answered my question





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