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Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by ANOK
Oh here we have someone who wants to tout communism as something good.
At a basic – but critical – level, worker ownership creates and sustains jobs, production, and services, and offers possibilities for long-term employment stability and living wages...
The ultimate goal of Communism was labor ownership of the means of production and a state run by the proletariat, theoretically in a classless society.
In the anarchist, Marxist and socialist sense, free association (also called free association of producers or, as Marx often called it, community of freely associated individuals) is a kind of relation between individuals where there is no state, social class or authority, in a society that has abolished the private property of means of production. Once private property is abolished, individuals are no longer deprived of access to means of production so they can freely associate themselves (without social constraint) to produce and reproduce their own conditions of existence and fulfill their needs and desires.
Libertarian socialism (sometimes called social anarchism and sometimes left libertarianism) is a group of political philosophies that promote a non-hierarchical, non-bureaucratic, stateless society without private property in the means of production. Libertarian socialism is opposed to all coercive forms of social organization, and promotes free association in place of government and opposes the coercive social relations of capitalism, such as wage labor. The term libertarian socialism is used by some socialists to differentiate their philosophy from totalitarian communism or by some as a synonym for Left anarchism.
Marx and Engels used the terms Communism and Socialism to mean precisely the same thing. They used “Communism” in the early years up to about 1875, and after that date mainly used the term “Socialism.” There was a reason for this. In the early days, about 1847-1850, Marx and Engels chose the name “Communism” in order to distinguish their ideas from Utopian, reactionary or disreputable movements then in existence, which called themselves “Socialist.” Later on, when these movements disappeared or went into obscurity, and when, from 1870 onwards, parties were being formed in many countries under the name Social-Democratic Party or Socialist Party, Marx and Engels reverted to the words Socialist and Socialism.
Originally posted by alienreality
reply to post by newcovenant
That is hilarious, and following the exact same pattern of obomber's deceptions as well as all the obomberites, who continue to bathe in his light of his unglorious illusion, while Obomber continues to destroy America from within, and without..
Call hom a socialist, marxist, communist, corporatist, and fascist, because he is all of those things rolled into one gigantic highly dangerous (to the national security of America). Type person
Then you would be correct, and could leave out the arguing of semantics.