Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by Harte
you still haven't presented a plausible, all encompassing alternative context and/or explanation of who they were talking about when they say the
gods taught them civilization.
Please present evidence that "they" said this - whoever "they" are and maybe then I can help you with that.
The Sumerians believed that the Apkallu taught them civilization. The Apkallu were not gods. If you look into this, you'll find that the very first
of the Apkallu was a human man.
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
All you do is say "it doesn't mean this it means that." yet you never talk about the main point of their creation "myths". "heaven" or "and"
or "heaven, earth, offspring" is pretty clear as to the gist of our origins. What do you suggest they mean?
Perhaps you should read their creation myths.
Again, which cultures myths are we talking about here? Maybe I can help you there.
How about this one - when Genesis refers to the serpent in the Garden of Eden, who are "they" talking about there? Reptilian aliens?
What I'm saying is that, if you want to believe in a literal interpretation of any creation myth as a matter of your personal faith, then say so.
That is, there's no evidence for Eden, much less a talking snake. But if that's what it takes to get you (not you personally, but anyone) through
the day, then that's all good.
If, on the basis of faith, you want to believe in a literal interpretation of Sumerian mythology, then learn Sumerian mythology first, is my opinion.
The word "Anunnaki" is not Sumerian. No Mesopotamian culture ever claimed that the "Anunnaki" (or any other subset of their gods) came to Earth
in any way. What I'm saying here is that they believed the Gods were already here and belonged here. Also, no Mesopotamian culture claimed the Gods
If the above things (and others that Sitchin invented) are in your belief system, then you should realize that you are believing in a literal
interpretation of false claims written by a scammer. You are not deciding to believe the Sumerians "had it right" or anything. You are choosing to
believe lies told by a con man that you yourself can, if you cared to, easily discover are false.
Regarding genetic manipulation of DNA to create humans, there is a Babylonian story about Marduk (IIRC) creating deformed humans. If you read the
story, you'll see that he had a reason for doing this.
From this, Sitchin gets genetic manipulation of H. Erectus (I believe he originally claimed Neanderthal but I could be wrong) to create humans.
The Anunna gods were not mining for gold when they complained and thus humans were created to do this work. This idea appears in no ancient text from
any ancient culture. It might be in some ancient text that we've never found, or in some ancient text that was subsequently destroyed, but the story
of Paul Bunyan might also be in some ancient text we've never found as well.
People here seem to think that Sitchin translated these ideas himself from the original cuneiform. If you look at this idea, you'll find that, not
only did Sitchin refuse every single opportunity to translate cuneiform when asked to, but he also never actually claimed he could do so. What this
means is, rather than believing that the Sumerian scribes knew what they were talking about, you are willing to believe that Sitchin knew better than
the Sumerians himself, all without him being able to read the language!
Sumerian is known to us because Akkadian is known to us. The Akkadians (who started with Sargon the Great) adopted the Sumerian language for official
business and religious business (which was basically the same business in those days.) They still kept their original language for everyday use but,
since they had no alphabet, they used cuneiform for that. Because scribes had to learn to write words in both languages, the Akkadians developed
dictionaries and lexicons to help scribes learn how to write in both languages. Many of these lexicons have been found. If you prefer to believe
Sitchin's ramblings then, you are just dismissing what the people who were there at the time said about it all.
If you need further clarification, ask.