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originally posted by: SayonaraJupiter
If anyone here was still interested in the topic of disclosures then I would point to the fact that the Russians have never put a human being over 475km... it's not something that is generally discussed... the Russian Glass Ceiling... but there it is. A hard, cold fact of human history.
originally posted by: onebigmonkey
No he isn't. He is offering inspiring words to new scientists to tell them to find answers to important scientific questions.
originally posted by: choos
originally posted by: turbonium1
The astronauts don't need to be instrument technicians, in order to know if their instruments are working properly or not. They certainly need to know what instruments are on board, and where they are located.
you just said they do need to be instrument technicians..
just above you stated, if the VAB dosimeter fails they need to fix it.. why??
you claimed it was one of the most critical equipment on the craft, so if it failed all three astronaut must be VAB dosimeter technicians.. it must be repaired or else the mission will fail..
actually can you even explain why the VAB dosimeter must be operational at all times?? remember that the entire flight path has already been planned well before they even got into the rocket..
originally posted by: choos
originally posted by: turbonium1
So let's compare the two images, side-by-side..
No area is noticeably darker than the surrounding area in the two images, is it?
Either way, you have nothing to support your argument.
which image is more exposed?? and when editing into a panorama needs to have be darkened more to match the rest of the images??
or are you trying to tell me that both images are at the same brightness and need no editing to stitch them together to appear seamless??
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Armstrong should have punched that moron.
originally posted by: turbonium1
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Armstrong should have punched that moron.
well that wouldn't look good buzz already did that
originally posted by: turbonium1
I said the astronauts are the only ones who could fix it, or at least TRY to fix it.
It is a critical piece of equipment, and potentially disastrous if it isn't functioning when near to, or within, the VAB
The crew would know every piece of equipment in their spacecraft.
Something not working properly during the flight can be serious. Time is a huge factor, as well. A crew may have no time to ask Houston for help, perhaps.
Why would they NOT tell the crew about all of the equipment in their craft?
Oh, right, you said - because there is some equipment they don't NEED to know about!
No need to know about the VAB dosimeter, we can fly to the moon and back without it, anyway!
I guess they put it in the craft just for fun, or get some 'trivial' data, !?
originally posted by: turbonium1
Such intense emotion in Apollo astronauts has only one possible explanation - that they are all lying about going to the moon.
Anyone who did land on the moon would laugh at someone calling it a hoax.
Someone calling him a liar, and a thief, etc. is a personal attack, so it's normal to get ticked off here.
But it won't allow you to legally punch anyone, unless you're an Apollo 'naut, a god-like figure.
originally posted by: onebigmonkey
Prove they didn;t. Prove the crew didn't know about it.
originally posted by: turbonium1
I mistook your point on Aldrin's punch, sorry about that.
The worst astronaut reaction - imo - was Ed Mitchell's
He kicked Sibrel in the butt, and then a bit later...
Assuming the camera was off, Mitchell and his son both made death threats to Sibrel.
The Apollo-ites say it was a harmless joke.
It doesn't seem like they are joking around,( as if a joke would ever justify it, in any way.)
originally posted by: onebigmonkey
Or they find it annoying to be stalked by a moron and harrassed by them.
Actually it does. The court case was dismissed on the grounds of provocation. Unlike the criminal conviction Sibrel earned for violent behaviour.
originally posted by: turbonium1
originally posted by: choos
originally posted by: turbonium1
So let's compare the two images, side-by-side..
No area is noticeably darker than the surrounding area in the two images, is it?
Either way, you have nothing to support your argument.
which image is more exposed?? and when editing into a panorama needs to have be darkened more to match the rest of the images??
or are you trying to tell me that both images are at the same brightness and need no editing to stitch them together to appear seamless??
I'm saying both images have no dark area. Your image has no dark area around the LM, so you have no case here.
But you already knew that, I'm sure.
originally posted by: turbonium1
originally posted by: choos
originally posted by: turbonium1
The astronauts don't need to be instrument technicians, in order to know if their instruments are working properly or not. They certainly need to know what instruments are on board, and where they are located.
you just said they do need to be instrument technicians..
just above you stated, if the VAB dosimeter fails they need to fix it.. why??
you claimed it was one of the most critical equipment on the craft, so if it failed all three astronaut must be VAB dosimeter technicians.. it must be repaired or else the mission will fail..
actually can you even explain why the VAB dosimeter must be operational at all times?? remember that the entire flight path has already been planned well before they even got into the rocket..
I said the astronauts are the only ones who could fix it, or at least TRY to fix it.
It is a critical piece of equipment, and potentially disastrous if it isn't functioning when near to, or within, the VAB
The crew would know every piece of equipment in their spacecraft.
They need to know all of their equipment, as their lives depend on it.
Something not working properly during the flight can be serious. Time is a huge factor, as well. A crew may have no time to ask Houston for help, perhaps.
Why would they NOT tell the crew about all of the equipment in their craft?
Oh, right, you said - because there is some equipment they don't NEED to know about!
No need to know about the VAB dosimeter, we can fly to the moon and back without it, anyway!
I guess they put it in the craft just for fun, or get some 'trivial' data, !?
originally posted by: onebigmonkey
I don't claim it was a joke (I've not seen that particular footage), but what I do claim is that you need to see these things in context.
You risk your life doing something incredibly dangerous, then some idiot hounds you and claims you are a liar. Why would anyone tolerate that? I can think of very few people in the world who would not get angry, and I can think of many people who would punch someone in the face for far less (try going downtown on Friday night and calling someone a liar, see how you get on).
I think most of them have been remarkably restrained in the face of provocation. I think to make claims about how they would behave under such provocation is dishonest, as we all know how we would behave in such circumstances no matter how minded our morals.
originally posted by: turbonium1
If I landed on the moon, why would I care if someone claims that I didn't?