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Originally posted by XaniMatriX
This is why i hate joining moon landing hoax threads, none of us know the truth, but with common sense you can easily ask two simple questions, what happened to the program if it was so damn succesfull, and why did they start using Ukraine built shuttles if they had a perfectly good working rocket that can go all the way to the moon?
Originally posted by Zaphod58
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
This is why i hate joining moon landing hoax threads, none of us know the truth, but with common sense you can easily ask two simple questions, what happened to the program if it was so damn succesfull, and why did they start using Ukraine built shuttles if they had a perfectly good working rocket that can go all the way to the moon?
They were a victim of their own success. After the first landing, television stations stopped showing anything but the launch of following missions, except for Apollo 13. Then after awhile people started wanting to know why we spent so much on space, when we had an oil crisis, among other major problems here on earth. Earth should come first, not space.
They only use Russian rockets to get crew to and from the ISS, and that only because the shuttle was retired. Everything that NASA has flown until the shuttle was retired was American built. You don't use a Saturn V to launch things into low earth orbit. That's like using a 747 to transport a single bag of mail.
As for the whole "75 years after their creation" that's pure BS someone came up with. If that's true, explain why we know about so many secret military projects, and why we know about them so soon after creation? The SR-71 went public just a few short years after it was first flown, and it was military. The F-117 went public within 10-15 years of first flight. The B-2 was public almost from the start. There is no rule that the military can't reveal things for 75 years.edit on 4/15/2013 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
Man you too eh, nothing anyone can say... im gonna be honest with you man, they never went to the moon, people can't leave this planet, other wise that would be breaking a natural cycle
Originally posted by choos
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
Man you too eh, nothing anyone can say... im gonna be honest with you man, they never went to the moon, people can't leave this planet, other wise that would be breaking a natural cycle
oh interesting, you seem to have undeniable proof that man can never leave this planet because it will break the natural cycle.. care to elaborate?
p.s. should we assume you are very religious?
p.p.s. how would you define leaving this planet?
edit on 16-4-2013 by choos because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
... im gonna be honest with you man, they never went to the moon, people can't leave this planet, . . .in reality, none of us know what actually happened.
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
they took military men there,
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
Other wise, why have they never continued to send man to the moon, i don't know, maybe to build a telescope on it, put a satellite on it for cell phones, cable or even spy b/s they do up there how about a lunch pad for deep space exploration, NOTHING, everyone just forgot about it and we all know why "some events took place" and no one even questioned it.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
Other wise, why have they never continued to send man to the moon, i don't know, maybe to build a telescope on it, put a satellite on it for cell phones, cable or even spy b/s they do up there how about a lunch pad for deep space exploration, NOTHING, everyone just forgot about it and we all know why "some events took place" and no one even questioned it.
And how are you planning to pay for thse projects? Do you even realize how much putting something into orbit costs? Let alone putting something on the moon?
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
Originally posted by choos
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
Man you too eh, nothing anyone can say... im gonna be honest with you man, they never went to the moon, people can't leave this planet, other wise that would be breaking a natural cycle
oh interesting, you seem to have undeniable proof that man can never leave this planet because it will break the natural cycle.. care to elaborate?
p.s. should we assume you are very religious?
p.p.s. how would you define leaving this planet?
edit on 16-4-2013 by choos because: (no reason given)
It's just a speculation, and no i am far from being religious, but unless people found a way to mimic this earths energy inside a space craft, i can't imagine any human leaving this planet, i mean being in orbit is still being on this planet, but where they draw the line for the radiation belt i believe that is our maximum aloud distance.
Other wise, why have they never continued to send man to the moon, i don't know, maybe to build a telescope on it, put a satellite on it for cell phones, cable or even spy b/s they do up there how about a lunch pad for deep space exploration, NOTHING, everyone just forgot about it and we all know why "some events took place" and no one even questioned it.
To even keep the astronauts on the moon, they would have to carry a battery the size of their bodies just to keep them cool in sun exposure, or warm in the shadows, maybe even a bigger battery for such energy.
Also, why in the world are their foot prints so deep? i mean it's 1/8th of earth gravity and yet it is as if they are stepping on wet sand with earths gravitational effects.
Just saying, people can't leave this planet, we can all just kiss human space exploration goodbye, the only way to travel through space is to connect the conscience to a machine, some sort of computer (like remote viewing)
and then send a robot that would be controlled by a humans mind, that's it, that is the only way to travel. (SPECULATION NOTHING MORE) so keep your panties on people.
Originally posted by XaniMatriX
My proof is that WE HAVE STOPPED trying to send people into deep space, not even past the moon just to see if we humans can do it, NOTHING has happened since but spy satellite programs in orbit. It's plain as day light, right in front of your eyes and you guys are clinging to something that happened 40 years ago, and there is absolutely no evidence they went to the moon except the footage we saw, and that is it, nothing else. And the men that were part of the program that even spoke out against saying it's impossible, were all killed. so there is my proof.
Plain as day, if we can leave this planet beyond the orbit, why aren't we? where is all the money going? Why are the people who promised to test the limits are doing the exact opposite of it?
All they did was leave a # load of questions unanswered, there is my proof, and i don't need you to believe it
Originally posted by captainpudding
You have presented no proof whatsoever other than the fact that since you don't understand the answer it means to you that there is no answer.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
So you think finding two car sized objects on the moon is the same as shooting a laser at a reflector, when you know exactly where it is? Not the same or even close at all.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by XaniMatriX
Except there IS a reflector. The moon is barely reflective enough to get a laser return without it.
As for the shuttle, it was so expensive to launch, because it was reusable. But they still weren't even close to the same. An Apollo mission was over twice what a shuttle mission cost to launch, when adjusted for inflation.
The average cost of a shuttle mission was around $450M (average cost, in 2011). Apollo 11, when adjusted for inflation, again, cost $1.75B.