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turbonium1
You say...
"..in order to accurately portray lunar gravity on earth, you need to slow it down 2.45times.. "
So why don't you show us how accurate the Mythbusters jump is when it's 2.45 times slower? Then, you can educate me on how much better it is than at Jarrah's 67% speed!! I can't wait to see it...
But you won't do it, right?
Why did he even throw the bag away? To be the first man to leave litter on the moon? Looked like a good idea at the time?
I'm joking, but it's very odd to me..
Have you ever seen this done....before?
I have. I've seen several variations of it, in fact.
Any idea, yet?
It is a standard illusion. A magician's trick.
A paper that seems to swoop all over the place, and no strings are seen..not even when you're close!!
The 'Apollo spinning bag' is just another variation of the same basic trick. An illusion.
Many versions of this trick might be available online...if you want to see exactly what I mean.
turbonium1
...Why did he even throw the bag away? To be the first man to leave litter on the moon? Looked like a good idea at the time?
I'm joking, but it's very odd to me...
Perhaps you can comment on the argument that an inability to name the person who took a photograph renders the subject a hoax. If the Apollo 12 photograph is a hoax because the photographer's name is not known, doesn't that render Richard Nixon a hoax because we do not know the name of the photographer who took his picture?
SayonaraJupiter
reply to post by DJW001
Perhaps you can comment on the argument that an inability to name the person who took a photograph renders the subject a hoax. If the Apollo 12 photograph is a hoax because the photographer's name is not known, doesn't that render Richard Nixon a hoax because we do not know the name of the photographer who took his picture?
Nixon was never in cislunar space!! Comparing any picture of Nixon with AS12-50-7362?? That's another attempt at stacking the cards in a poker game.
The Apollo Defenders have been clinging to a pair of dirty windows for dozens of pages now... who snapped the 7362 image? If Defenders have no answers... and no sources... that is a no win scenario.
The Apollo Defenders have been clinging to a pair of dirty windows for dozens of pages now...
who snapped the 7362 image?
If Defenders have no answers... and no sources... that is a no win scenario.
choos
the reason why jarrah made up his 66/67% is because he knows that speeding up lunar footage 2.45x will not resemble human movement..
choos
if you speed up all lunar footage 1.5x you will find that all free falling objects are being affected by gravity that is lower than earths.. that goes for ALL FREE FALLING OBJECTS including the dust, the apollo 12 SEQ bay accidental pendulum swing and the hammer and feather drop experiment.
choos
i dont have the software.. why dont you do it.
choos
because it was in the way.. if you are worried about littering on the moon then i have some bad news for you..
choos
you will need to show me.. show me a free falling bag/paper and freely rotating expanding on rotation that is supposedly being controlled with ropes..
the keywords are freely rotating and expansion..edit on 23-11-2013 by choos because: (no reason given)
dragonridr
reply to post by turbonium1
I think you might want to see this.
I said it was a joke, please don't try to make it into something else.
turbonium1
This version is performed by David Copperfield. The handkerchief flitters about, to and fro, in all directions...
www.xploremagic.com...
Here's another version, done by Paladino, starting around 2:30. This hanky has all sorts of 'free' rotation, as well as expansion/contraction...
www.youtube.com...
Another version, done by Lance Burton...
www.youtube.com...
There are many other similar illusions - such as flying boxes, cards, flowers, humans, etc.
I don't think the flying illusions are all done by the same method. But no matter - however they do it, they are all illusions of objects in free flight.
They also have far more complex movements than the Apollo flying bag does.
The Apollo flying bag is just a different version of a standard magic trick.
turbonium1
No, the reason he used 66/67% speed is because it matches up superbly with Young's jump. He had no reason to think it should be 2.45x slower. That nonsense stems from your pro-Apollo side..
Why do you assume they are all "free falling objects" to begin with? I've just shown you 'free falling objects' that were all illusions!!
It's the astronauts movements which match to 66/67% speed...or in the case of Apollo 11, to 50% speed.
Because 2.45x is not my claim, perhaps?
onebigmonkey
Did the robots wear rings and watches I wonder?
Dave Scott from Apollo 15 was the only one to wear a ring on his left hand, and it can be seen in this photograph of the moon that could not have been taken from Earth. Photographs earlier in this magazine feature images of Earth that can be dated, as well as astronauts on the lunar surface.
AS15-88-12004
SayonaraJupiter
By the way, I won that last hand (the Apollo 12 hand)
hellobruce
SayonaraJupiter
By the way, I won that last hand (the Apollo 12 hand)
Ah, no you lost it badly - just like you have lost every silly claim you have made here.
SayonaraJupiter
Which Apollo 12 astronaut snapped AS12-50-7362?
SayonaraJupiter
onebigmonkey
Did the robots wear rings and watches I wonder?
Dave Scott from Apollo 15 was the only one to wear a ring on his left hand, and it can be seen in this photograph of the moon that could not have been taken from Earth. Photographs earlier in this magazine feature images of Earth that can be dated, as well as astronauts on the lunar surface.
AS15-88-12004
By the way, I won that last hand (the Apollo 12 hand) now you wanna perform a switcher-oo and start talking about Apollo 15.
Part of the thrill of working in an Apollo thread is that topics move really fast.... for many pages we were talking about A12, the 70mm Hasselblad images and trying to figure out who took that 7362 image, the image that you ineptly used to build a poorly conceived bluff out of the crappy cards that you were dealt...
Apollo 12 is a stacked deck of cards. You always have to remember that Apollo 12 is a high stakes poker game played in one of the 5 casinos owned by Howard Hughes during Richard Nixon's presidency.
A15 and Dave Scott's ring??!! Now you are really getting desperate because maybe you realized that Apollo 12 Magazine Q is a hoax, the images in Magazine Q were snapped by remote controlled robotic armatures designed and developed by Hughes Aircraft. Man, learn some history!edit on 11/27/2013 by SayonaraJupiter because: make it better
DJW001
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
1. Who took that photograph of Richard Nixon in your avatar?
If you don't have an answer to that question then you can sit back down.