1346 and later: The black plague spread across Europe, killing one third of the population. This was seen as the prelude to an immediate end of the world. Unfortunately, the Christians had previously killed a many of the cats, fearing that they might be familiars of Witches. The fewer the cats, the more the rats. It was the rat fleas that spread the black plague.
1669: The Old Believers in Russia believed that the end of the world would occur in this year. 20 thousand burned themselves to death between 1669 and 1690 to protect themselves from the Antichrist.
Originally posted by bknapple32
I dont subscribe to the USA falling like the empires of Rome Greece or Egypt. Those were much different times. Other world powers would come in and conquer you when your empire fell. That doesnt happen in this day. We would just stop being the worlds number one super power, thats it. In this day of globalization it just may be a revolving door between 4 or 5 super powers taking turns at the top.
Originally posted by kingster129
I am quoting the two comments , because they signify what the problem and solutions are .
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Now that is an interesting premise if I read your words correctly here.
You're basically saying that if Dec 21 - 2012 doesn't give a major off-ramp of change to the road we're all on ...good or bad... then we'll pass the last ramp we have and just kinda putter down the road until we run out of gas, hit the side of the road and just kinda sit there in a world of Fail.
Hmmm... I can see your point. So many DO have SO much invested in this idea of changes, ends, new beginnings or even Rapture that to have NOTHING happen will be the worst shock of all for many.
Personally, I'm going to be drunk as a skunk on Dec 21...from about 11:30pm on the 20th to after midnight of the 21st. Indeed... If it all happens, someone tell me about it when the hangover fades on the 22nd. I'll love to hear all about what I am SURE I will have no personal memory of.
One wants to just get drunk and carry on as normal in a dumbed down state of intoxication and one wants to go within to connect with the Higher SELF with whom we all carry .
See my point . Make a good choice that uplifts on that day . It could be a turning point if all desired to create a heaven rather than a hellish enviroment and directed energy as such
Yes that is a good analogy.
I keep hearing people talking about getting drunk on the 21st... this is probably the worst thing you could do... it mutes all of your senses.
I for one will be meditating.
Originally posted by HUMBLEONE
Kingster129, That's a pretty brilliant observation if you ask me.You are of course absolutely right. We won't stop producing and consuming until the last tree has been cut down and turned into toilette paper, until the last Appalachian mountain leveled to rip the last ounce of coal from the Earth....until the Earth is unable to sustain life. Mankind will die, smothered in it's own excrement, it's gadgets and gizmo's. There is a divergence at hand, a high road to take and I'm gonna take it.
Originally posted by CottonwoodStormy
Well to answer the ops question of what could happen, anything is possible and truly i think no one really knows though I was just sent a 30 second video that was on Lebanon news 2 days ago showing clearly two suns, and if anyone knows how to translate Lebanese please do so, this is quite scary to see on the news? Nothing suprises me this year.
Originally posted by kingster129
We have created a way of living that is completely unsustainable.
This ending of the Bak'tun offers a turning point. It poses the chance for change. Because of everything I have said thus far, something HAS to happen.
The question isn't whether something will or will not happen. For such a big change to occur that de-roots the basis of our current society, the question you have to ask yourself is... what COULD happen?
Originally posted by miniatus
Here's some more information for people who don't understand the long count calendar
1 Baktun = 20 katun cycles of the long count calendar ( mayan calendar ended 20 times )
1 Katun = 7,200 days
We're in the 13th baktun which ends on December 21st, so it's cycled 260 times already.. we're entering the 14th Baktun...
1 Baktun = 144,000 days ( 394.26 years )
So in short, the Mayan long count calendar has ended 260 times already.. and yet the world remainsedit on 11/25/2012 by miniatus because: (no reason given)edit on 11/25/2012 by miniatus because: (no reason given)