reply to EnochWasRight

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Holy moley, so what should left handed people do??

They're obviously the evils ones!

Originally posted by SpearMint
Ok, so I think we've established that you can't prove that it's full of truth and therefore your earlier statement was crap. Thank you.

edit on 25-11-2012 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)

well I think now I can understand you more ! I am not a chiristian. it depends on what you call it christianity though. and I do not regard Bible the exactly words of God !! however most of it is more like a history book. the beliefs that I have a proof for that is the existence of only one God and a need for messengers to give us his guidance. and a need for the judgment day. my secondary beliefs emanates from those three basic beliefs which can be proved by wisdom.
for example the secondary fact that Jesus is alive comes from this for me:

And [for] their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the messenger of Allah ." And they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but [another] was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. And they did not kill him, for certain.-Koran 4:157

and the secondary fact that he and other righteous will return comes from this for me:

And We have already written in the book [of Psalms] after the [previous] mention that the land will be inherited by My righteous servants. -Koran

and the secondary fact that Jesus is the son of Mary not the son of God comes from this however it is vivid:

O People of the Scripture(chiristians), do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs. -Koran

and the fact that Koran itself (arabic words) has remained intact comes from this:
there is only one arabic Koran in the world and it's history is clear. the arabic Koran is easy to read and it is in the home many people. moreover it is not written by some limited elites but it was written and memorized by public. so that wrong clerics can not change the main words however they can mistranslate it to deceive people for their egos. but aware people can reach the main arabic Koran easily and think about it.

Indeed, We have sent it down as an Arabic Quran that you might think about it. -Koran 12:2

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by Pladuim
In this dimensional world we live in, how can anything exist without something creating it? So what is more probable, that this universe just magically appeared (big bang), or that the universe was created by God (big bang)?

Just a few questions I'd like answers to.

Pladuim

ok

as everything is from egypt

we have:

ATUM = big bang - (ejaculating air and moisture, earth and heaven)

PTAH = concious creation - (thought in heart, spoke it...then it manifested)

Originally posted by jazztrance
SO ..let me get this straight. God doesnt speak to anyone anymore, if he does, they are crazy like David Koresh. YOU CAN ONLY have spoken to "GOD" way back then 2000 years ago for people to take it seriously. So lets see, there were psychic wannabe sandpeople in the desert that wrote stories about Jesus over a hundred years after his death (if he was even a real person,you cant prove it)...They wrote things Jesus said when they never even knew him. Whats mindblowing to me is that some people beleive that crap. NOT ONE THING they wrote has come to pass, NOT ONE, oh ofcourse ANYONE can turn a metaphore into whatever you want so to some it is accurate based on what they want it to mean. Looking at how the book was made, YOUVE GOTTA BE A SUCKER to buy into the scam..and what is really annoying is people who claim to take the bible literally but when it reads something you dont agree with ,then it was a MISTRANSLATION. The book is garbage and its sad so many fools beleive and are STILL waiting on some person to return that was a combination of dieties before him. to be a christian. First you must learn to be in denial ,then learn to beleive simply what you want to because you want to because nothing has been proven to you. What gets me is people actually argue over this garbage,its a wonder people so dumb can function in society. They must get ripped offall the time because they beleive anything cause if you beleive what the bible has written then YOULL BELEIVE ANYTHING.

edit on 25-11-2012 by jazztrance because: (no reason given)

Thank you for reminder me why I reached the conclusion that tolerance and acceptance of that which is intolerable and that which is unacceptable, is the greatest of evils. You also remind me of one of my favorite stories from the Bible. You see in the Israelite camp there was a half Egyptian/Israeli that loved to insult the Israelites beliefs in the one and true God.

I don't know what horrible thing has happened to you; maybe you are about to become homeless, perhaps a love one died, or maybe you where molested or raped at some point through your life. It is very sad what drove you to this point, as the only ulterior motive is that you like to cause harm to others for the sake of causing harm, and that seems almost unthinkable. A person trying to stir up trouble to satisfy some strange urge, and the person getting a sense of glee from it like they are possed or something. Either way I feel truly sorry for you and hope you get better soon.

If you put 10 people in a row and have them play telephone game the initial words spoken will be utterly unrecognizable by the end. Multiply that by centuries, then multiply by unethical religions editing things to suit their needs, then multiply that by repeated re-translation... it would seem next to impossible that even if there was some sort of higher intelligence involved in any of these random myths and writings that it would be garbled beyond belief by this day and age.

Just because something is old doesn't make it true. Just because something is published and distributed a lot doesn't make it true. I will say though that some parts are interesting. If you use some creative thinking, some of the prophecies in Daniel do sort of line up with the rise and fall of world powers through the centuries. Is it possible that some of these books/scrolls were originally written by people with an extremely high intuition or ability to perceive future events? Possibly, but I'd think that any message pertaining to our time would be long lost in the mix even if it ever existed in the first place.