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Originally posted by OOOOOO
From: Lawrence Spencer
Originally posted by Size9
Interesting, i read a good chunk of it and it's almost exactly the same as the Scientology story with bits of L. Ron Hubbards sci-fi works interlaced (mission earth, battlefield earth).
If the source of the story was not connected to hubbard then it would serve to validate it but more likely the case is that it's been written by someone that's studied scientology.
Sent: 07 November 2000 02:12
To: Graham Hancock
Subject: Your victory
Congratulations to you and Robert on your victory regarding the BBC attack! Well Done! I commend you on your courage and persistence.
I am the author of "The Oz Factors" (I sent both yourself and Robert a copy of my book last spring), so I certainly do have some first hand knowledge how the mainstream academic vested interests operate to suppress the truth. My book discusses this subject as one of the 12 "Oz Factors" which prevent our civilization from discovering answers to the mysteries of our existence.
I have been a Scientologist for 31 years. A good deal of my book is an application of the principles of L. Ron Hubbard as regards the fields of study into which you and Robert have so bravely advanced. Perhaps the material in my book will be of assistance to you at some point in your research.
Keep up the good fight!
Very Best Regards,
Lawrence R. Spencer
author of "The Oz Factors"
Originally posted by aravoth
reply to post by Tiradentes
I asked the same thing about an extraordinarily advanced ship being brought down by a force of nature. Then I recalled Robert Monroe, and his experiments he did with astral projection. Many will tell you, that Monroe was an accomplished astral projector, founded an institute, and to this day, his books are considered the authority on the topic. A particular experiment he did involved a Faraday cage. He placed himself inside a cage, mediated, Monroe's assistants would run electrical current through the cage while he meditated, and when he finally got out of his body, he was not able to leave the Faraday cage. At least, not until much later.
The point is, Monroe's ability to escape the cage was disrupted, in fact he lamented several times that his astral body would get stuck on power lines if he got too close. He eventually moved past these restrictions.
The point is, the two are related. Airl speaking of being a spiritual being, forcing a person out of body, etc. Then "she" talked about a lighting bolt bring down the spacecraft. Just as Airl could not control the craft when current hit it, Monroe could not escape the Faraday cage whilst current ran through it.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by samaka
See the entity explained it in linear time but based off understanding "spirituality" there is no time because your soul is not matter based but conscience base it has no form and only exist because we chose to exist I can explain this more if you want, time is preceived by matter moving through space because our brains or bodily senses.edit on 26-11-2012 by samaka because: (no reason given)
I think you simplified it too much going the opposite way actually (in the understanding of this person/being/alien/fiction is presenting).
Its more our concept of time is in error..it is a fruit fly trying to describe the life cycle of the day as if a day was of consequence...our measurements are flawed, even the linear cycle, though existing subjectively, objectively is not really applicable from our measurements.
But there is time..just trying to explain its nature it seemed was like trying to teach a dog physics...
It would be difficult to accurately give a fair description..no point of reference from our angle, therefore we are bound to endlessly be confused until we have a reference...like trying to explain to a computer what something smells like when scent is not a sense it has...be easier to push a wet noodle.
Sometimes they will capture other IS-BEs as slaves. 67(Footnote) They will be forced to inhabit bodies to perform menial, or manual work -- especially mining mineral ores on heavy-gravity planets, such as Earth.
If any IS-BE attempts to penetrate the force screen, it "captures" them in a kind of "electronic net". The result is that the captured IS-BE is subjected to a very severe "brainwashing" treatment which erases the memory of the IS-BE.
It is difficult to stretch our resources to do much more than a periodic reconnaissance of Earth. Especially when there are no immediate advantages to invest resources here.
......mind control of the IS-BEs in the invaded area through the use of electroshock, drugs, hypnosis, erasure of memory and the implantation of false memory or false information intended to subjugate and enslave the local IS-BE population.
Unfortunately, there has been no workable method conceived to emancipate the IS-BEs from Earth.
We are not scheduled to invest the resources of The Domain to take total control of all the space surrounding the area at this time. This will occur in the not-todistant future -- about 5,000 Earth years
Australia and the ocean areas to the north were the center of the Lemurian civilization and are the source of Oriental races. Both civilizations possessed electronics, flight and similar technologies of space opera cultures.
Underground "amnesia stations" were set up on Mars and on Earth in the Rwenzori Mountains 134(Footnote) in Africa, in the Pyrenees Mountains 135(Footnote) of Portugal, and in steppes of Mongolia. 136(Footnote) These electronic monitoring points create force screens designed to detect and capture IS-BEs, when the IS-BE departs the body at death.
If we don't face the facts of our situation, we're going to stay under the thumb of the "Old Empire" forever!
Originally posted by Unidentified_Objective
Originally posted by phyllida
reply to post by Size9
The author is a scientologist it is referred to earlier on in this monumental waste of words
And quite the monumental waste of words it is. Although, there are already nutters in this very thread not only buying the story (Despite the reference to this being a work of fiction) but claiming to have also received telepathic communications and.... *cough cough* bullshìt! *cough*....telekinesis training. I guess some people love their BS with whipped cream, sprinkles and cherries on top.
Originally posted by Alien44
Well, it's the strangest read I've had in years. It seems a heavy read, lots of detail to take in at once but I wouldn't dismiss it as rubbish or fiction. Most of the comments I'd like to make have already been picked up by others here and I won't go through them again.
However, if I combine all the information we have about captured aliens at Roswell and put that side by side with thiis book, there are many contradictions. In all the supposed films and photos which have been "leaked" from Roswell we see beings, not androids, being dissected and laying on autopsy tables. We see an alien struggling in discomfort in a interview room which points very much to the fact that they are alive as we understand being alive. When we read the book these are spirits, living in purpose built "bodies" manufactured to interact with the physical environment.
One of the two must be wrong or seriously mistaken.....which one?