Our Solar System Is Passing Through The Milky Way Galactic Plane December 21, 2012

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posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by TauCetixeta
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Outstanding! Meade or Celestron?


Neither. Orion and various homemade ones where I ground mirrors myself.



You would probably enjoy living on the moon. No atmosphere to contend with.


No thanks. Can't get good italian food on the moon.



Do you know how far the Deneb Star System is from Earth?


About 2600 light years or around 800 parsecs.



Try to find a dark clear spot on December 21, 2012 at around 10 PM.
It will be exciting.


I live in the country over 15 miles away from the nearest town. Every night is dark for me except when the moon is out.
I'll most likely be playing Portal 2 with one of my youngest children, and then will be making popcorn to eat the next day as I sit here on ATS reading all the "See? Nothing happened." posts and threads that will be on here.




posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by cavalryscout

Originally posted by alfa1

Originally posted by TauCetixeta
Here is a picture to help illustrate what is happening.



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I dont know how many times this needs to be said.
Your diagram is simply not true.
The solar system is ***NOT*** passing through the "plane" of the galaxy any time in the next millions of years.

Stop spreading this crap and go read some astronomy websites.

link to debunk this stupid hoax
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Are you positive that the solar system is ***NOT*** passing through the "plane" of the galaxy on 12-21-12?


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I recall seeing a diagram, and a source that suggested that it takes about 60 million years from leaving the galactic plane to return back. Or maybe it was 30 million years? I can't recall. I think it takes close to 1 million years to travel through the disc. I also recall reading that the Solar System has passed through the disc and is in the "Southern" portion now, for something close to a few millions years ago.

I do also recall reading that it's been about the amount of time it takes for disturbed Kuiper Belt and Oort Cloud objects to get to the location of Earth since traveling in the disc.

Of course, this would need to fact checked!



posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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The galactic plane is defined as the area that the spiral arms of the galaxy occupies, including their thickness which is about 1,000 light years.

The sun moves around the center of the galaxy, and also in a sine wave pattern through the galactic plane. It takes the sun about 225 million to 250 million years to complete one rotation around the galactic center, and in that time it completes 2.7 periods of that up / down movement through the galactic plane. in other words, around a 100 million years or so.
Our sun is moving at 220 km/s so it takes us about 1,400 years to go 1 single light year or about 8 days to travel the same distance from where it is at to the Earth (that is one AU or astronomical unit).



posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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You ground the mirrors yourself!
Now you have passion.
I can't help but wonder what you have as wallpaper on your computer.

Eagle Nebula or M45 Pleiades Star Cluster?



posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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Originally posted by TauCetixeta
reply to post by eriktheawful
 


You ground the mirrors yourself!
Now you have passion.
I can't help but wonder what you have as wallpaper on your computer.

Eagle Nebula or M45 Pleiades Star Cluster?


Neither.

It's a very high resolution of this picture here:




If I was going to use a Messier object as my wall paper, it would be M42.
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posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by PuterMan
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A huge Gamma wave would simply kill every living organism on Earth if it is as big as some describe. Oh and the Sun will not blink out for three days before the change either because first that could not happen and second there will be no change.



This is precisely why we need some serious gamma ray defense and we need to install it before 12/21 !

Email your congressman today!

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posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 05:51 PM
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I'm not worried about the effect of the dark energy influx on Earth, I would be more worried about this energy being absorbed by the suns core (which is a singularity) resulting in a massive solar flair of record magnitude.



posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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I'm more worried about the Monolith they found on IO.




posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by LUXUS
I'm not worried about the effect of the dark energy influx on Earth, I would be more worried about this energy being absorbed by the suns core (which is a singularity) resulting in a massive solar flair of record magnitude.


So there is a singularity in the Sol star.
I guess that means there is a singularity in the G2V star at Alpha Centauri.
Are the 2 connected by a natural wormhole?
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BTW, don't worry about the massive solar flare.
The Andromeda Council has huge biosphere space stations that could be placed between
Earth and our sun.
Biosphere the size of planets - Crystaline Fusion Generators
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They know what they are doing.
If such event took place it is possible we could see darkness for 3 days on Earth.
People who do not understand will be filled with fear and anxiety.
Knowledge is power.
Ignorance is not always bliss.
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posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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That Gamma ray defense was just a cover story.
That's the Cabal & Illuminati making a sad and pathetic last effort to shield the Earth from
4D energy/vibrations from our sun. They are in denial about Earth becoming a spectacular
4D planet itself. The deepest and darkest caves on Earth will be blasted by 4D energy.
It's over. They should all leave now.



posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 10:46 AM
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I'm afraid you don't understand what would happen if an actual singularity were to find itself at our sun's core, what would really happen.

It would not turn our sun blue/white nor blue either. In order for the sun to turn those colors, it's surface temperatures must increase. The temperature must at least double in order for the sun to turn blue/white, or it would have to increase over 6 times for it to be blue. That is why those stars are those colors: their temperatures are much, much hotter than our sun.

Having a singularity in the middle of our sun would not increase the sun's temperature. It would make the opposite happen. The sun would begin to cool and it's color would begin to deepen towards the red spectrum.

Our sun produces light and heat from nuclear fusion. Hydrogen is being fused together to create helium. That process releases a lot of heat and light. With a singularity at the sun's core, that process would be interfered with, as the singularity would be removing the sun's fuel of hydrogen. The hydrogen would be literally sucked into the singularity and because of that huge gravity well, it would not allow nuclear fusion of the hydrogen to occur close to it.

This would cause other problems too. The sun is in a state of balance: it's constantly trying to blow up, but at the same time the massive amount of hydrogen gas that makes it up is keeping it from exploding outward.

If you interfere with that balance, it would tip the sun one way or another. In this case, a singularity at the core removing fuel, would allow the outer part of the sun to start crushing in on itself.

In other words, the sun would not be expanding due to a singularity at it's core, it would literally start to shrink.

The other problems with your speculation: Gravity and Orbital Mechanics.

We orbit the sun where we do, at the speed we do because of what the sun's mass is. If you add a singularity to the sun's core, it's mass will increase by a LOT. If the sun's mass increases by a large amount, it would affect the orbits of every single planet and other objects within our solar system. And the effect would not be a good thing, as it would start literally pulling us towards it.



posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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Yes, our sun is being shaked and baked by the Andromeda Council.
They are doing the exact same thing in another star system.
All they are doing is adding 4th dimensional Helium to it to calm it down and
transform it into a Blue White Star. Your chart is correct. The color temp will
skyrocket. When they are finished the Golden Arches at McDonalds will appear
purple. They are also moving in a very small brown dwarf star near the planet
Venus. It is called Tekoma.
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I know this all sounds like Science Fiction but the agenda is already in motion
and we don't get a vote.



posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 11:24 AM
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I belive that sunset on 12/21/12 will be the last light until 12/25/12. This would be the three days of darkness that has been spoken of. Much panic will ensue for those not informed. For others though, the light will return. Stay safe and sane.



posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by TauCetixeta
reply to post by eriktheawful
 


Yes, our sun is being shaked and baked by the Andromeda Council.
They are doing the exact same thing in another star system.
All they are doing is adding 4th dimensional Helium to it to calm it down and
transform it into a Blue White Star. Your chart is correct. The color temp will
skyrocket. When they are finished the Golden Arches at McDonalds will appear
purple. They are also moving in a very small brown dwarf star near the planet
Venus. It is called Tekoma.
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I know this all sounds like Science Fiction but the agenda is already in motion
and we don't get a vote.


No, it doesn't sound like Science Fiction.

Science Fiction actually has basis and foundations in real life science.

What you are describing falls under the category of Fantasy, as it completely ignores science and the laws of physics completely.

Are you aware of what the size of a brown dwarf is? Are you aware of how many masses it is? Are you aware of what it would do to the orbits of all the inner planets if what you said was true?

You don't have to take my word for it. Download Universe Sandbox yourself and set up exactly what your are describing and watch what happens to our planets. I've done it before: Venus gets flung out of the solar system, and the Earth ends up with a highly elliptical orbit (our oceans will boil during part of our new year, and then the atmosphere will freeze solid for the rest of the year).

4th dimensional Helium?


I love Sci Fi TV shows and movies too, however they are filled with so much Technobabble that is wrong or incorrect, it makes my brain hurt. Even Star Trek TNG couldn't get the temperature for Absolute Zero correct in one of their episodes.

That's because Hollywood writers make the scripts, and they don't really care if they get something technically correct.

So, tell us, why can't we see this brown dwarf by Venus? You are aware that Venus is up and quite visible each morning during this time of year, yes? I've not seen anything near it, and something the size of Jupiter, and massing at least 13 times more than it near Venus would reflect a LOT of light (and trash our orbits of course). It would out shine Venus quite a bit.



posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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That's a very good question.
They are hiding Tekoma behind Jupiter.
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I preferred Star Trek : Voyager and Stargate SG-1
The last episode of ST:Voyager introduced something called a Transwarp Hub.
They used it to get home to Earth.
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Stargate SG-1 had alliance with the Asgard Command - Thor
Thor was a Gray alien.



posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by TauCetixeta
reply to post by eriktheawful
 


That's a very good question.
They are hiding Tekoma behind Jupiter.
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I preferred Star Trek : Voyager and Stargate SG-1
The last episode of ST:Voyager introduced something called a Transwarp Hub.
They used it to get home to Earth.
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Stargate SG-1 had alliance with the Asgard Command - Thor
Thor was a Gray alien.


Really? That is interesting, a brown dwarf being hidden behind Jupiter, which is opposite of Venus (and Mercury and Saturn) right now, in relation to their orbits around the sun, meaning they will have a LONG way to go to get it to the orbit of Venus.

So tell us, when are they going to move it? Seeing that Jupiter is high in the sky at night right now, shining brightly, I can't wait for them to move it, because the moment they do, it will look like there are two Jupiters in the sky. Should be quite a spectacle for the entire world to see.

How fast are they going to move it? I'm assuming quite fast, and that they must have some sort of device that cancels out gravity since having a brown dwarf behind Jupiter would completely screw up it's orbit, and right now Jupiter has been moving across the sky just like it should, where it should.



posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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Tolec says around January 2014.
I don't see why we need it all. I guess they will explain later.
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The main reason for ALL of this is because the reptilians are obsessed with Earth.
They evolved here billions/millions of years ago and therefore demand the Earth
right now. To put it another way, we are ruining the Earth for any and all reptilians.
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PS: Don't shoot the messenger

You should probably email Tolec. I did. He responded.
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posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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If the Earth became 4D how would I keep my shoes tied or keep my internal organs from falling out?



posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Junkheap
If the Earth became 4D how would I keep my shoes tied or keep my internal organs from falling out?


4D lifeforms have no blood!


We also won't get cancer,diabetes etc.
It's a win - win ascension. It's a quantum leap forward in evolution.

Just stay and accept the ascension.



posted on Nov, 27 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by TauCetixeta
reply to post by eriktheawful
 


Tolec says around January 2014.
I don't see why we need it all. I guess they will explain later.
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The main reason for ALL of this is because the reptilians are obsessed with Earth.
They evolved here billions/millions of years ago and therefore demand the Earth
right now. To put it another way, we are ruining the Earth for any and all reptilians.
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PS: Don't shoot the messenger

You should probably email Tolec. I did. He responded.
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Sorry but the messenger is first to be shot when relaying deception,

If the messenger is a mindless drone what does it matter if they are shot, if they had the power of being able to think for themselves they would never have become a messenger of such deception or attempted deception.

If one needs to email Tolec for whatever reason after what he is claiming then that person is already lost and have become a prepared diner for many hungry con artists ready to eat.

I am unable to compute how you use science and fiction in the same sentence or even together as you show your understanding of science by what you post, I can understand one creating a fantasy land for them to roam in but to try and impose that fantasy onto our collective is wrong and will only create more division and destruction.

Shame on you





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