Originally posted by Xtrozero
We should go on the assumption that the universe is teaming with life. Here on earth it started at a very early stage and never stopped, and I would
think that would most likely be the norm under the right conditions throughout the universe.
With that said, we are not talking about life in general here but advance space faring/dimensional faring life forms, and that starts to really reduce
the odds. If we take earth once again, there has been trillions of different life forms created over billions of years here, but so far there has been
only one life form with a small chance to become space faring…us.
There has only been one life form over billions of years that has had the capability to build too as we do, so it is not just intelligence but also
opposable thumbs, plus other physical and mental needs that all severely reduce evolution from getting it all right over and over. With us, it is said
that at about 9 billion years is when stars and planets were finally formed to be the universe we see today and it took earth 4.5 billion years to
make us from scratch, and if we died out like we almost did a few times what then. Just looking at us and the time involved it suggests that the
universe has not made too many life forms that have all the right stuff when earth out of trillions of life forms gets one...one maybe.
I also don’t think intelligence is always a good trait. Evolution constantly evolves good and bad traits. Good ones carry on and bad ones die out,
and when we look at intelligence with humans the jury is still out on whether we will survive or not. As we keep evolving we also become weaker to
survive in our own environment without a lot of aid. A typical major disaster could wipe the human race off of earth, BUT life on earth would still go
on, and that there is the main point.
If anyone bets on a single life form type lasting longer than a few million years then they will die a very poor person. Evolution has shown us a
trillion times over that ALL life forms come and go, but life in general continues. In the end, yes there is a lot of life in the universe that
continually resets and this all just does not spell well for the idea that there are some ancient space faring alien at all, much less that just
happens to also find our tiny planet in an endless sea called out universe.
edit on 27-11-2012 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)
I disagree with going on any sort of assumption when such an assumption is based on ZERO supporting evidence.
With what we currently understand regarding the Universe at large, life, so far, has been found only one place; here on this one tiny little jewel of
a sparkling rock we call home, named Earth.
Everywhere else we've looked, we got nothing.
Thus, to assume the Universe is teeming with life would be fallacy based on our current data set.
Besides that, so what? If the rest of the Greater Universe is an outright shopping mall with crowds milling about tentacle to shoulder to eye stalk
to any other sort of body part deep, it matters absolutely zero if we can't see them, talk to them, or interact in any way at all.
Any information to that extent would be absolutely worthless information.
It's equivalent to me informing some homeless hobo that the Sultan of Brunei has a net worth of $20 Billion.
Of what worth is that information to that hobo? ZERO.
What's important is finding life, or just evidence of life elsewhere in our local immediacy of a dozen or so light years, or any bubble of local
neighborhood distance that we might actually be able to reach and/or communicate with through whatever feats of engineering and technology we might be
able to eventually dream up to meet the challenge.
The rest of the Universe, as fascinating as it is, as far as life is concerned, is worthless except where it can give us information regarding ... The
Universe, cosmological puzzles, and other sorts of informations we can hash out from what little bit we have the ability to observe and make
If observing the rest of the universe helps us solve the puzzle of Faster Than Light travel, then, whoopee, it's not so worthless after all.
As far as life,is concerned, however, the neighbors need be close enough to eventually plan on stopping by for a "hello", whether they're just
photosythesizing ocean slime, actual complex organisms like fish, dogs, cats, butterflies, ponies, whatever, or even the rarity of someone that we can
actually sit down with and have some palaver.
Thus, so what if the rest of the Universe has life? It does us absolutely nothing. We need find life in our neighborhood locality so we can make
sure we're all wearing the same color when we step out on the street to thug out some Represent at the rest of the galaxy, even if we're just kick'n
it with our photosynthesizing slime mold homies from planet Z.
edit on 27-11-2012 by Druscilla because: (no reason given)