Food Stamp Recipients Outnumber Populations of 24 States Combined

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posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
Hmmm...so many people unsatisfied with the American government, yet they are using American property on American soil using an American internet connection to complain about the American government which supports their American right to freedom of speech just so it can hear them complain about how unfair America is.

Yep, sounds totally justified. Here's an idea: move to another country. If you don't like it here, leave.


It is not correct to say anyone using the system has no right to criticise it. If deviation from the norm is not allowed. Change will not occur.

I do not know if you are being sarcastic or not. The USA among its Western peers is certainly not noted for its freedom of speech. Saying that people should leave the country because they disagree with the government sounds to me as draconian as Chinese civil rights. Maybe you would be happier living under a regime where governmental criticism is not allowed..

Why dont you go and live in China...





posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 07:30 AM
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Deviation from the norm is inevitable. But all the same, I'll give you a meaningless star for your post.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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The party is over, and no I don't think the majority of people on assistance are freeloaders, but I can only speak from experiences.

You are not doing people any service by keeping them dependent for generations.

Now if the government stopped handing out food stamps tomorrow, how would they survive?

There aren't enough jobs for over forty million people, can they hunt?
Can they fish?
Plant a garden?

OMG we have an enormous problem, then there are the working class poor living paycheck to paycheck>>>me.

These are things I think about, how to survive a collapse, don't think it can't happen.



posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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My buddy graduated high school 4 years ago. He finished school with high marks and is pretty bright. He works in retail and only gets 25-30 hours a week at minimum wage. He supports his mother and brother who is still in school. His mom has cancer and can't work. They get food stamps and help with rent from the government. My buddy is 22 years old and still has never driven a car. Some days he has to walk 6 miles home in the snow after working. Last winter thankfully for him it was mild but he had no heat all winter. Their gas was shut off and couldn't afford to pay it. Not everybody in America is born with a silver spoon up their ass.

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posted on Nov, 28 2012 @ 08:45 PM
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Last Wednesday, I was grabbing some stuff at the grocery store before Thanksgiving. The lady in front of me was holding up the line because her purchase wouldn't close as she was trying to purchase some Guinness with her EBT card. The chick at the register says, oh yeah, it's because you're buying beer with food stamps. She says, hold on, and calls the manager over. He does some stuff and is able to make it so the purchase goes through anyway.

This is the problem folks. The chick in front of me didn't look like she needed food stamps very much. I mean, she has a nicer phone than mine. Obviously pays the outrageous fees iphone providers make you pay so i'm sure she can afford some other stuff too.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 05:06 AM
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I've got a # phone. Dietary deficiencies. And I still buy beer.

Why?

Because sometimes, when everyone else around you seems to be a raving lunatic, blithely unaware of even the mundane normalcy of society, it is nice to enjoy some beer.

I'm not defending that person; I'm merely trying to point out the glaring flaw in your logic... so don't judge.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 08:57 AM
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This is the problem folks. The chick in front of me didn't look like she needed food stamps very much. I mean, she has a nicer phone than mine. Obviously pays the outrageous fees iphone providers make you pay so I'm sure she can afford some other stuff too.


Sometimes poverty finds people when they aren't poor - and so because she wasn't wearing rags, wasn't skin and bones and sores all over - and had a nice phone - she's scamming the system?

And she doesn't deserve any treats?

She should be buying what? Beans and rice - and what else? Anything else? Is salt allowed - or is that a luxury she doesn't deserve?

Years ago, way before this current economic downturn - when the whole anti-assistance thing was in full swing and the I-got-mine-cause-I'm-a-decent-human-being-brigade was swinging their self righteous clubs and railing on the poor - I read a story written by a woman on foodstamps

She had a little girl who was having a birthday. She was working - but not making enough on her own to get by. She bought a cake - because she hadn't had enough time to make one - and the other people in line lit into to her about abusing the system - in public. She was crying - because she bought her little girl a cake

Who are you people anyway? What is wrong with you?

By the way - today not having a phone is not an option - and being connected to the internet has become an absolute necessity for people looking for work

Sure, some people will work the system - there are always dishonest people. Try to remember that when you're looking at what some of the haves have done to our world - illegally (or legally - depending on how you want to look at it)

I guarantee you nobody ever made them cry in public for buying a cake - or a beer

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posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by wantsome
My buddy graduated high school 4 years ago. He finished school with high marks and is pretty bright. He works in retail and only gets 25-30 hours a week at minimum wage. He supports his mother and brother who is still in school. His mom has cancer and can't work. They get food stamps and help with rent from the government. My buddy is 22 years old and still has never driven a car. Some days he has to walk 6 miles home in the snow after working. Last winter thankfully for him it was mild but he had no heat all winter. Their gas was shut off and couldn't afford to pay it. Not everybody in America is born with a silver spoon up their ass.

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It is illegal to turn gas off in the winter, here anyway.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by FlyersFan
 


As an American we are supposed to help those less fortunate. You don't like it leave, it's not gonna stop anytime soon.


well that maybe so for the ones who can't physically help themselves, or who might need help temporally.or any other circumstance beyond their control.
but for the one's who are healthier than myself, or that are just plain lazy, or the one's who need help but that take their ebt card to get cash and buy things they can live without, before getting or taking care of things they need first. or the ones who play the system to so they can rake in more money. no way they should not be given any thing if they are doing these things.

i don't like, and i'm not gonna leave. i will support politicians that try to pass laws that make it harder to get the ebt.

and your right, it's not gonna change any time soon. not until we do away with bleeding heart liberal politicians or the ones that play up to the recipients of ebt's . and one of the most guilty of politicians to do is obama



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by wantsome
My buddy graduated high school 4 years ago. He finished school with high marks and is pretty bright. He works in retail and only gets 25-30 hours a week at minimum wage. He supports his mother and brother who is still in school. His mom has cancer and can't work. They get food stamps and help with rent from the government. My buddy is 22 years old and still has never driven a car. Some days he has to walk 6 miles home in the snow after working. Last winter thankfully for him it was mild but he had no heat all winter. Their gas was shut off and couldn't afford to pay it. Not everybody in America is born with a silver spoon up their ass.

edit on 28-11-2012 by wantsome because: (no reason given)


my hats off to your buddy, this is what i'm talking about. i don't mind helping people like this. he is willing to sacrifice to take care of his a family. these circumstances are beyond his control, but yet he goes out and does what has to do to for his family to survive.

it's those who don't do what he is doing that need to be cut off.
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posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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It's funny to think people are so naive to believe that the government wants to tax more to redistribute the wealth to the poor, when they are actually using taxes for bailouts and crony capitalism. It's all a PR stunt to divert attention and seem like a lot of gullible people bought it hook line sinker.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by NoJoker13
As an American we are supposed to help those less fortunate. You don't like it leave, it's not gonna stop anytime soon.


1 - :shk: Typical NoJoker post ... You CONTINUALLY post things trying to claim I'm saying something that I am not. You should stop it.

2 - You missed the entire premise of this thread. It's that there is a problem with the way the government does things if this many people need foodstamps. I never said the problem was with helping people. I said the problem was the way the government does business. LEARN TO READ.

3 - Side note "As an American we are supposed to help those less fortunate" you say. So you are pushing YOUR morals onto others. Something the left whines that the right does in the pro-life movement. So there is no difference between you pushing your morals and the prolifers pushing theirs. Congrats.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by yadda333

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by strafgod
Once our money reaches goverment hands its no longer our money. if your really concerned about this then Stop paying your taxes.

Or get the government to spend smarter.

But wouldn't you just come on here and post a thread whining about the government having too much control over our lives: "Look, now they're telling people what they can and cannot buy with their food stamps!


How on earth do you get that having the government spend smarter somehow equal them having more control??? If anything, having them spend smarter would mean that they'd be LESS INVOLVED.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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It's funny to think people are so naive to believe that the government wants to tax more to redistribute the wealth to the poor, when they are actually using taxes for bailouts and crony capitalism. It's all a PR stunt to divert attention and seem like a lot of gullible people bought it hook line sinker.
Well millions of poor people now have free health insurance, so I guess its working.



posted on Nov, 29 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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well that maybe so for the ones who can't physically help themselves, or who might need help temporally.or any other circumstance beyond their control.
but for the one's who are healthier than myself, or that are just plain lazy, or the one's who need help but that take their ebt card to get cash and buy things they can live without, before getting or taking care of things they need first. or the ones who play the system to so they can rake in more money. no way they should not be given any thing if they are doing these things.

i don't like, and i'm not gonna leave. i will support politicians that try to pass laws that make it harder to get the ebt.

and your right, it's not gonna change any time soon. not until we do away with bleeding heart liberal politicians or the ones that play up to the recipients of ebt's . and one of the most guilty of politicians to do is obama


I have to agree with Flyer.
We have to help the needy, I don't think anyone purposly wants to be hungry, I know I don't. There probably are a few people that are taking advantage of the system, they will probably get caught too. Their radar is on high looking for people that abuse the system, I know they targeted me just because I took money out of my bank account, because I don't like to leave money in my account, but then I put some back in. They got suspicious as though I had a hidden income of some sort, but I don't.

What are we supposed to do with a country full of hungry people? What do you think the hungry people will resort to, in order to feed themselves? Don't you think we would be a 3rd world country if we let people starve? I don't think starving people is a good political statement.
You may not like the fact that your taxes go to that, but mine do too, and when I'm down and out they feed me as well. I have worked for over 25 years of my life and have paid taxes all of those times. And the one time I forgot to pay my taxes, they came after me to force me to pay those taxes.
It just makes makes me wonder why so many people feel like others are screwing the pooch. The system is a good system, and they are well aware of offenders, and they deal with them.

I think you might be dealing with something else thats entirely different.

Are you feeling sad and depressed? Are you anxious? Worried about the future? Feeling isolated and alone?
You might be suffering from Capitalism!
Symptoms may include: Homelesness, Unemployment, Poverty, Hunger, Feelings of powerlesness, Fear, Apathy, Bordom, Cultural decay, Loss of identity, Extreme self consciousness, Loss of free speech, Incarceration, Sucidal or revolutionary thoughts, death.



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 02:13 AM
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apparently you did not pay attention to details as you read my post. excuse me as i quote myself.
this was the post i was responding to



Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by FlyersFan
As an American we are supposed to help those less fortunate. You don't like it leave, it's not gonna stop anytime soon.

did you not see "As an American we are supposed to help those less fortunate"
1st quote from my post


well that maybe so for the ones who can't physically help themselves, or who might need help temporally.or any other circumstance beyond their control.

did you not understand that i 'm all for helping these people as i described
2nd quote my post.


but for the one's who are healthier than myself, or that are just plain lazy, or the one's who need help but that take their ebt card to get cash and buy things they can live without, before getting or taking care of things they need first. or the ones who play the system to so they can rake in more money. no way they should not be given any thing if they are doing these things.

did you not understand that i do not like helping these type people. and if they are doing this, they deserve no
help.

so i will try to put it as simple as i can.
if a person can not physically help themselves. or who might need help temporally. or have any circumstances beyond their control, whether it's being sick becoming disabled or any other thing that keeps them from making enough money to live off of. i have no problem helping.

but for the one's who are healthier than myself, or that are just plain lazy, or the one's who need help but that take their ebt card to get cash and buy things they can live without, before getting or taking care of things they need first. or the ones who play the system to so they can rake in more money. no way they should not be given any thing if they are doing these things. i have a problem helping these people.

the rest of your post i will not respond to. it sounds just like typical bleeding heart liberal / socialist diatribe



posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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Apparently not he had no gas. I'm not fully aware of his entire situation but I do know for a fact they cut him off. I stopped by frequently and witnessed it myself. No only did he not have heat he also had no hot water. He went 9 or 10 months without gas. I know it's been turned back on as of now.



posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 11:26 AM
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posted on Dec, 13 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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That's a lot of food stamps. That's a problem for sure.

I'm afraid that with the right work laws starting to take root, and more and more people are going to be working part time only, and wages do not keep up with the cost of living, these numbers are only going to get worse and worse.

Something is going to have to give way sooner or later.


 
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posted on Dec, 21 2012 @ 07:29 PM
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There is only one place the money can come from, all the seriously wealthy people that are hoarding money.

They sure in the hell can't tax the poor any more than they have, we have no money, and the last thing this country needs is another tax break for corporate america, or another bank bail out. Why isn't anyone baliing out the poor people? I think people have been hoarding money for way to long.





 
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