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posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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I believe that the next guy down the line would most likely want to live in a USA where there is real opportunity, freedom and liberty to live and work with little or NO government involvement in their lives, and to not be in a position where meaningful full-time work and pay are nearly impossible to find, leaving them with such little household income that they are eligible for "government assistance"

That USA has not existed for a very long time now, and too many are clinging to the belief that it can somehow be magically brought back. It can't at least not for generations into the future, and even then, they would have to make major changes now that no political party can survive.

Sometimes reality bites.




posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by kaylaluv


Insurrection over what? What kind of social engineering? Specific examples please.


I don't have any.

Yet.

Just speculating.


Hmmmm. Well I could speculate too. I think anyone who is not a liberal is a reptilian shape-shifter who eats the souls of the poverty-stricken. Do I have proof of any of that? Well, no - cuz I'm only speculatin'

But it "could" be true, right, because you don't have any proof that it's not true.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by kaylaluv


Insurrection over what? What kind of social engineering? Specific examples please.


I don't have any.

Yet.

Just speculating.


Hmmmm. Well I could speculate too. I think anyone who is not a liberal is a reptilian shape-shifter who eats the souls of the poverty-stricken. Do I have proof of any of that? Well, no - cuz I'm only speculatin'

But it "could" be true, right, because you don't have any proof that it's not true.


No need to speculate on that.

It's true.




posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 01:30 PM
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It is quite ridiculous for us all to sit here and throw blame around distracting us from the bigger issue. The issue is that America is dead if the globalist get their way. There is no recovery planned for America in the near future. America has to be brought down and made to be a failure. America will be the scape goat used to usher in the "solution" to greedy capitalist system.

This is problem reaction solution. Problem - they take your jobs and toys away and eroding your liberty. Reaction Blame everyone but the elite and cause infighting prolonging suffering. Solution present socialist technological world government based on "resource management" to the public as the end to hunger/poverty/ war etc.

Im sure the video is located here on ATS somewhere but people really need to watch the documentary about the economic collapse of Argentina in 2001 to see where this is heading before the "solution" is presented to us.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by NihilistSanta
It is quite ridiculous for us all to sit here and throw blame around distracting us from the bigger issue. The issue is that America is dead if the globalist get their way. There is no recovery planned for America in the near future. America has to be brought down and made to be a failure. America will be the scape goat used to usher in the "solution" to greedy capitalist system.

This is problem reaction solution. Problem - they take your jobs and toys away and eroding your liberty. Reaction Blame everyone but the elite and cause infighting prolonging suffering. Solution present socialist technological world government based on "resource management" to the public as the end to hunger/poverty/ war etc.

Im sure the video is located here on ATS somewhere but people really need to watch the documentary about the economic collapse of Argentina in 2001 to see where this is heading before the "solution" is presented to us.


**ding, ding**

We have a winner.
Economic collapse has been engineered before and it will happen again. Corporations by their nature, do not claim nationalistic loyalty.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by davjan4
Those are big numbers. And not good. Why are they not good? Becuase the government wants them to be even BIGGER.

They RELISH this dependency. And want MORE of it.

Here are a few sources. I could post a hundred more. Make no mistake, the government wants to OWN you. because when they do, they have purchased your vote. Because most of the sheep vote with their wallets.

dailycaller.com...

money.cnn.com...

www.kfvs12.com...

www.thegatewaypundit.com...


Debunked. Half of the participants on food stamps are children under the age of 18. The poor and disabled tend not to go out and vote.


As Dave Weigel reported Friday, the operating theory of much of the conservative media is that increases in food stamps are functioning as bribes to get poor people to vote for Obama. “We have three million more off the unemployment rolls and on the disability rolls, and they all vote,” Rush Limbaugh tells his listeners. ” The evangelical activist Gary Bauer told Weigel, “There’s a lot of people out now around America who depend on checks from their fellow taxpayers being in the mailbox every day. They will turn out in massive numbers.”

Here’s the problem: poor people actually don’t vote that often. According to a CNN exit poll in 2008, those making less than $15,000 a year made up 13 percent of the population but just 6 percent of voters, while those making more than $200,000 a year made up just 3.8 percent of the population but fully 6 percent of voters:

www.washingtonpost.com...



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
The audacity of some people still trying to blame Bush for this.
Twenty six out of fifty, not fifty seven, is more than 50%.

What happens under a President's watch is his doing, that includes the good and the bad, and everything from killing OBL to a US credit downgrade.
Nobody wants people to go hungry, the point that is being made here js that Obama can officially be crowned as the food stamp President.


And Bush can be crowned the "Economic Collapse president". It was under Bush that the USA invaded two nations and charged it to the credit card. It was Bush who gave his rich buddies a tax break - one that everyone else had to pay for. It was Bush who pumped billions of $'s into the banking system and didn't ensure it was actually used to benefit the people.

If you want to call Obama the "Food Stamp president" knowing that the causes of that go back to the last administration, you can sure as hell state that Bush caused a LOT of the problems you are now in.

Enough is enough, stop defending that man like he's some kind of hero! He invaded two nations and charged your kids the bill, gave his buddies tax breaks which CLEARLY DIDN'T HELP, and he bailed out the banksters with your money.

If you think he's just a poor little man taking the blame for Obama's failings you are seriously deluded and biased beyond all sanity.
edit on 25-11-2012 by detachedindividual because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by curiouswa
It's not so much unemployment, but people are paid to not work. I despise public assistance in this form. It's not up to the government to feed you! Short term unemployment is fine. But as an employer, I can tell you that more than 75% of those applying for a job, don't even return calls for interviews. What does that say! It means they are applying out of necessity than the desire to get a job.


I wish I had that problem where I live. I've been looking for work for 3 years now. I found one place that hired me on the spot for a low level job that barely pays the rent, which I took in an instant. Otherwise I haven't gotten so much as an interview despite applying for multiple jobs a week for years. Actually, I take that back... the place I work has an open position which I applied for and got an interview at next week. It's my first interview in 3 years of looking.


Originally posted by ausername
I believe that the next guy down the line would most likely want to live in a USA where there is real opportunity, freedom and liberty to live and work with little or NO government involvement in their lives, and to not be in a position where meaningful full-time work and pay are nearly impossible to find, leaving them with such little household income that they are eligible for "government assistance"

That USA has not existed for a very long time now, and too many are clinging to the belief that it can somehow be magically brought back. It can't at least not for generations into the future, and even then, they would have to make major changes now that no political party can survive.

Sometimes reality bites.


What you're describing is a libertarian country. We have those, they're not named America, England, or Canada though. The most libertarian country is named Somalia.


Originally posted by beezzerHow do we get people OFF the government food card?


Well, the way off of it is to get people working in jobs that pay for them to exist. Unfortunately that requires a pretty big shift in the way corporate America has evolved over the past decade. We need to get rid of companies like Walmart which bring in exceedingly high profits while paying workers almost nothing and at the same time dictate rock bottom profit margins from their suppliers, which sends all the manufacturers in the supply chain into cost cutting/job cutting/job outsourcing/product quality cutting mode and then sends all the customers on the purchasing side of the equation into a position where they have 10% more purchasing power, but the goods they're buying only last 1/3 as long resulting in an overall reduced purchasing power. It's ironic really, because the government is effectively subsidizing the wage of Walmart employees by giving them all food stamps and cash assistance to support themselves.

I don't mean to pick on one corporation but it's the biggest example and it's nice to be able to name specific examples of where things are wrong, the main thing to take away though is jobs have to pay more while corporations don't raise their prices to compensate, resulting in them taking lower profit margins. That is the only way we'll have a situation where we can significantly reduce the safety net programs. Corporate America realizes now that they can pay people the absolute minimum dictated by law (not enough to live on) and the feds have to cover the rest to prevent revolts (would happen if people go hungry/homeless), that's not an easy change to legislate either, especially when half of the country is vehemently opposed to regulations on business.
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posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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Why take the red herring of the presidency? These guys get their orders from the same people makes no difference democrat or republican. The reason the elections are such an easily controlled joke for them now is because people buy into the notion that the president holds some kind of power that will change everything. If Obama tried to actually make policies that helped this country they would take him out like so many others. Wake up and stop letting history repeat itself.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 04:01 PM
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Corporate greed is way out of hand, and unfortunatly its been going on for so long that it's basically accepted.

I can remember when the first realization was that entry pay positions almost don't even pay the rent. While the corporations are always growing and expanding. I'm all about profit, but come on, you have to pay the people that work for you first.

You know what you get when you pay somone $9 an hour, you get a $9 an hour worker. I honestly believe people will bust their asses if they are compensated, and even if I'm wrong, at least they would respect the job because of the good pay. Watch how much harder they try to get into work knowing they are earning a good wage. Watch how much healthier they are because you pay them enough that they can afford doctors visits.

Back in 2007 we had an increase in the revenue for the country followed by a crash. This caused a lot of people to claim unemployment as it paid better than minimum wage. It was an easy way for people to strike and say they don't want to work for minimum wage, they are worth more.

So employers struck back by cutting hours, that way they no longer had to pay into UI funds. It appears that not only did they not want to pay a decent wage, but they also don't want to pay for UI benefits.

So Obama forced a wage increase, but the only thing that does is cause the cost of everything else to go up with it. Businesses refuse to allow their profit margins to be adjusted, and the poor need to get the money from somewhere.

This is why Obama forced health care, if they are going to be cheap bastards about it, the least they can do is take care of their slaves. If you work a job that barley pays rent, you are a slave.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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edit on 25-11-2012 by RighteousDude because: Nothing good to say



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Food Stamp Recipients Outnumber Populations of 24 States Combined

In November, the U.S. Department of Agriculture reported that a record 47,102,780 individuals receive food stamps.

According to US. Census Bureau data, that figure exceeds the combined populations of: Alaska, Arkansas, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming.


Have massive numbers of people depending on the US gov't for everything.
Have a gov't heavily invested in taking our $$ away to supposedly 'spread the wealth'.
Have a gov't heavily investing in taking over our health care and retirement.
Have a gov't deciding who can fly on an airplane out of the country and who can't.
Have a gov't deciding what schools can and can't teach and rewriting history lessons.
And what do you get??? A government that is VERY powerful over the people.
And the extra sad thing is that the people keep voting the same thing in over and over ..


This is frightening. To quote Dr. Who - "Stay Calm. Don't blink".
Seriously .. we can't even afford to blink.


It is not exactly a bad thing, or a problem in of itself. It is what it is, a symptom of the fact that we are in a major depression still. We need to remember that during the last great depression almost 10% of Americans starved to death. To those who whine about food stamps, the USA has a population of roughly 314 million today, so that means that 14% of the Country are still alive because of the food stamp program.

I may strongly disagree with the people who use such programs to advance their own petty agendas, but I cannot argue or even begin to entertain the thought that to allow so many people to starve to death is a better course of action.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by strafgod
Once our money reaches goverment hands its no longer our money. if your really concerned about this then Stop paying your taxes.

Or get the government to spend smarter.


But wouldn't you just come on here and post a thread whining about the government having too much control over our lives: "Look, now they're telling people what they can and cannot buy with their food stamps! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!"

ATS
The never ending bitch-and-moanathon.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by kaylaluv

Originally posted by davjan4
Those are big numbers. And not good. Why are they not good? Becuase the government wants them to be even BIGGER.

They RELISH this dependency. And want MORE of it.

Here are a few sources. I could post a hundred more. Make no mistake, the government wants to OWN you. because when they do, they have purchased your vote. Because most of the sheep vote with their wallets.

dailycaller.com...

money.cnn.com...

www.kfvs12.com...

www.thegatewaypundit.com...


Debunked. Half of the participants on food stamps are children under the age of 18. The poor and disabled tend not to go out and vote.


As Dave Weigel reported Friday, the operating theory of much of the conservative media is that increases in food stamps are functioning as bribes to get poor people to vote for Obama. “We have three million more off the unemployment rolls and on the disability rolls, and they all vote,” Rush Limbaugh tells his listeners. ” The evangelical activist Gary Bauer told Weigel, “There’s a lot of people out now around America who depend on checks from their fellow taxpayers being in the mailbox every day. They will turn out in massive numbers.”

Here’s the problem: poor people actually don’t vote that often. According to a CNN exit poll in 2008, those making less than $15,000 a year made up 13 percent of the population but just 6 percent of voters, while those making more than $200,000 a year made up just 3.8 percent of the population but fully 6 percent of voters:

www.washingtonpost.com...


Debunked.
They don't market food stamps to kids. Not when they do the ads during hispanic soap operas. Only adults can apply. They market them to seniors too. THEY WANT THE DEPENDENCY.


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posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by davjan4

Debunked.
They don't market food stamps to kids. Not when they do the ads during hispanic soap operas. Only adults can apply. They market them to seniors too. THEY WANT THE DEPENDENCY.




Well, then how do you explain it when the largest use of food stamps is in the conservative "red" states, where the electoral votes don't go to the democrats, but instead go to the republicans, who want to cut social services? It doesn't seem to benefit the democrats when most of the food stamp users are conservative whites.


White Poverty in Appalachia. Images of white poverty in Appalachia still ring true. Of the 100 counties nationwide with the highest percent of whites on food stamps, over half -- 52 -- are in just three states: Kentucky, Tennessee and West Virginia. Over 17 percent of white West Virginians are on food stamps, the highest rate in the country.

The Politics of Food Stamps. Southern "red" states known for their conservative politics and anti-government sentiment have some of the highest rates of food stamp enrollment.


www.heraldsun.com...



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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This is absolutely hilarious. You are all worried about a little welfare when the real thieves have already taken the cash and fled.



posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 07:00 AM
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I bet you one percent of one years US "defense budget" could pay for the governments food stamp cost for a decade. Yet the US government still goes around paying for bombs tanks and drones with which to kill more Earth citizens.



posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 07:08 AM
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Originally posted by MisterMarbles
Would you rather have 50 million people stealing your food at gunpoint?


Uh, they are already...they just empower the state to do it for them.



posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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I'm not sure what you guys expect... For a long time you had a system in place that helped make a certain segment of people very rich and helped them stay rich. The problem is your system also ensured that a lot of people were very poor and stayed poor. It was the very fact that these people were poor that made so many others rich. All of a sudden you're surprised that a huge chunk of the population needs help from the government?



posted on Nov, 26 2012 @ 10:46 AM
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Food stamps are not like welfare. I know plenty of people on them, who are only recently on them, due to layoffs and unemployment. Mostly the amount of unemployment is because of outsourcing. However, several businesses are gone because of the "lawsuit" mentality that people have fallen into. Blitz USA was a local business that made plastic gas cans and other related things. They have shut down recently due to lawsuits. People were suing them because their gas can exploded while pouring gas on a fire, literally. Even though Blitz put warnings on their products on proper use. People would use their products incorrectly and sue them over it, and win somehow. How do you win a lawsuit like that? That would be like suing Chevrolet because their cars don't handle well while going full speed in reverse. Anyway, I think there are probably other companies that were closed down due to similar circumstances.





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