The End of the World as we Knew it...

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posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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Hi everyone. I am a new member to this forum, even though I am a long time reader of this forum (and many others like it). I have been convinced something will be happen to the Earth in the near future. Unfortunately many theorists haven’t really satisfied everything being seen. The ideas seem to be true in part, but as a whole many have failed over the years.

Working with the theories of many of these thinkers I believe that we can build a better model that fits a number of events throughout history, and can help us prepare for events in the future. I think there is a dark very massive object that is going to influence the Earth in the near future. It has looped around the solar system many times, and its effects have been seen throughout history. I think the Mayans integrated what they say as its passage into their calendar, but because it is so dark, they aware fairly primitive, and took so long they did not get the timing right. Parts were also built into the Old Testament, story of Gilgamesh, and many other ancient writings and traditions.

Not that god is an alien or stellar phenomenon, but many ancient civilizations would find it hard to explain things they could not understand. It won’t be a cataclysmic ending to the world as many who read these events now believe, but a gradual change in how the world was with many disasters.

We can see a gradual shift in many effects across the world. Earthquakes are getting more intense and more frequent. Storms are getting more intense and hitting areas that they have not history ever impacted. Society itself is getting more rotten, when you used to see crazy behavior only during “Full Moons” that has now become daily occurrences. You can also see it from increases in alien sightings, as they want to see this even and its impact on humanity. All of these can be explained very well by an intense gravitational influence on the Earth that is slowly getting more intense. Unless humanity starts to prepare now the human race will be pushed back thousands of years.

The people in power can see the effects, and can track the objects, but have purposefully kept it quiet to take advantage of the disaster. They are gathering money and preparing themselves for disasters, while dismissing and scoffing at others preparing for disasters. They want to be the best prepared in order to rule over those left after all the changes have been wrought. With knowledge and being prepared we can make sure the future is free.

I believe that we will really hit a tipping point in the next couple years, where things will really undeniably start changing socially, environmentally, and politically because of impending changes. This will slowly build till the end of the decade where we will see the first of the global disasters that will shake humanity.

There is of course a margin of error there. There is an arrow pointing to the end result, but where the arrow ends is uncertain. I want to publish a book about it to show the proof of my findings, but I find it hard to purchase the publishing software and find time to write while working so hard to provide for my family. I will supply better estimations when I have more time to do the examinations; gravity is such a weak force that it needs many calculations.




posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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More fear porn? Really

The world is going to end because you "feel" it?

Sure.

You realise that seismic activity is actually down compared to last year? And yes you can look back 30 years and see there are far more recorded earthquakes now. But the key word there is recorded! Our devices are much much better and there are more of them. So many more it's by a magnitude of over 100.

December 2012 is just about to pass, just like 1996 and 2003 did. Time to push the doomsday date back another 8 years to forestall your ultimate embarrassment that nothing is happening, nothing is going to happen and nothing that has happened would suggest anything otherwise in the slightest.

I implore you to provide us with all these "calculations" you've been doing. Haha, I'm sure that they're very complicated! Tell me what instruments you used to obtain the data to make these calculations too - What are you conclusions? Specifically that is, if gravity is in play you'd be able to see exactly where from in order to "calculate" its effects.
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posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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I am very sorry that you want to shut your eyes and disbelieve when it is so obviously happening around you. Thousand of people know that something is wrong and are doing something about it. It has even hit mainstream productions like preppers, posted on many news sources, and even major retailers like Costco are selling products to survive. You have already closed your mind before I can even start in a place where I thought minds would be the most open and receptive to questioning what they see.

I am so sorry you have done this to yourself.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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Major places like Cosco are selling survival gear because they are businessmen. It's basic supply and demand,a ton of people are paranoid that something is going to happen to them and naturally stores and even entire books and businesses will pop to pander to it. There are a ton of Zombie apocalypse kits for sale which weren't about 10 years ago - Does that mean that a zombie apocalypse is imminent too?

People are scared because the media is scaring them with fear mongering over wars, terrorism which doesn't pose a real threat and scary graphics of nuclear missiles.

Crime rates and murder rates are going down and down in just about first world country, but the media coverage of these offences is going up and up creating a disproportionate feeling of fear for their lives from strangers and non-wellbeing in general.

And yes, this is a site of open minds but the motto is "Deny Ignorance" and so far your only 'proof' is that you feel it and (according to you) so do thousands of other people. You said you had proof, calculations which are scientifically verifiable so please let's see them.

If you want people to circle jerk your paranoid, unwarranted delusions of impending doom then sadly you've come to the wrong place.
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posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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SIGH!!


I have heard all of the "world is ending" silliness 3 billion times already in my lifetime.

Me ----------> YAWN @ thread.


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posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 09:42 AM
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Hahaha, deny ignorance? Like denying and ranting about how I'm wrong as soon as I open my mouth? I can't think of anything more ignorant then that.

The world ends as we know it constantly. Sometimes in more dramatic ways then others. With inventions, wars, disease...and this is just another change. People stuck their heads in holes and denied the changes that happened then, and I guess people are still denying now even when shown. People know it is going to happen. Gold prices are up to new highs, preppers are buying up land to survive, and you can read all about impending changes. Just because you deny when all of these others can see it clear as day seems more like ignorance.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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The world ends as we know it constantly.


That is probably the most accurate statement I have read in all the doomsday threads. This is actually true. The world we know changes constantly. Just think about how the world changed with the advent of the Internet. Every time a new piece of software for your computer is written. How about cell phones? Every time a new app is written, the world as we know it changes.

A changing world is absolute fact. Everyone seems to think there will some profound "moment" where a major shift will take place...it doesn't work that way...little tiny things happen everyday that changes the course of society and humanity...good or bad.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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You attribute a lot (earthquakes, storms, behavior) to the "intense gravitational influence" that is in the solar system. Do you have a reference for any research to support your assumptions? If so, please post as it should be interesting reading.

Also, you seem to imply some type of conspiracy by TPTB to keep the object secret. If such an object did exist I do not see how it could possibly be kept secret. To mention some obvious points, astronomers would be aware of it, its' gravitational influence would disrupt experiments in physics labs and the orbits of our satellites would have been disrupted. Seems like far too much to keep secret.

What type of orbit is this object on?

I'm retired and in the 4Sigma fun bracket!
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posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Write a book, you will make a fortune, then you can build yourself a nice bunker to live in, just let us know where it is, just in case.......



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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In my eyes there are only a few ways Life as we know it could end. Global war(or nuclear war), Significant Super volcano eruption, Global disease outbreak, an ice age(brought on by nuclear war, supervolcano, or meteorite) lastly large meteorite... I don't think any of these are predictable with in a year of their occurance really. As far as anyone in the past predicting said events, I really doubt it. We can make educated guesses, but they aren't likely to accurately predict our demise. Most meteors that come close to the earth are discovered with in a few years of their approach, at which point the really close calls aren't reported until after they pass. There are just so many of them, and in the darkness of space, they are extremely hard to spot and predict.
There are too many links for Asteroids, but you can research it yourself. JPL does an alright job with providing Near miss, and potential impact risks. They number in the many, and JPL admits many of them catch them by surprise. NEO JPL


Global disease could happen anytime. Will we predict the end, I doubt it. Every now and then there is a scare with a potentially damning contagion but it hasn't played out yet, and I really doubt we will predict exactly when it will happen. Likely while it's happening ha ha.

super volcano
Caldera
Super volcano eruption, well... It's hard to say we try to predict when these eruptions will take place but volcanoes do pretty much whatever they want, when they want. We can sometimes catch seismic hints just before it happens, but it's not always as easy as some people think, and it doesn't give us a whole hell of a lot of time to do anything. I mean considering most super volcanoes are right smack in the middle of societies they are pretty much screwed for lack of a better word, and many of which are so large the eruption will have global consequences. Again, good luck predicting a date. It could happen today, and what would we do?


Nuclear arsenal
As far as nuclear war, what with some 19,000 reported warheads worldwide it could happen any day. All it would take was one to really kick it off with all the tension, grudges and fear we all hold so dear in our hearts. Seriously, make an accurate prediction for any of these and I will pay you all the worlds gold. Keep in mind it will be useless given the world will end. So good luck, god speed, live your life to the fullest, any of these events could happen with very little or no notice what so ever.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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The research is currently being done to verify this. We have found disruptions in our coordinates that correspond with a small massive dark objecting passing by at the "south" end of the solar system, but it is so gradual that it is still hard to detect. We have just inferred it spending time observing it night after night looking for near Earth objects. It took some time to convince ourselves we weren't just sleep deprived.

I think it is just beginning to be able to be seen by those without access to the most sophisticated instruments, even to those with access to very good equipment. They had access to the data and were able to see them first from funding the project and top ranking political allies. Using bribery they were able to hide the facts and denying changes. Denialism has been happening throughout history, like just in the last century denying that smoking causes cancer, relativity as "jewish science" (Deutsche Physik), and plate tectonics (where Charles Hapgood even received a forward in his book by Albert Einstein).

Our current estimate is that the body is a rouge neutron star (not a pulsar type) from an asymmetric supernova explosion. It must be close to the Chandrasekhar Limit to show this kind of interaction. A singularity would be much more obvious to see before crapping yourself in terror after realizing what one that close means, and anything very luminous would be just as obvious (though maybe not as terrifying).



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 07:16 PM
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50 Million years ago on the Yucatan Peninsular cavemen sat there worrying about that ominous sky light that appeared the night before and wondered what glorious presents it was about to bring them.

How ever ominous your feelings are, nothing man could do could compare to that impact so its all good mate move on and live every day.
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posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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People were warned about taking cover for hurricane Katrina as well, which many laughed off. Romans laughed off the rumblings of Mount Vesuvius. People still deny that AIDS is a virus instead of people being poisoned by pharma companies. People deny what stares them in the face all the time.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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I agree with you, the earths crust is full of civilizations that perished suddenly.I bet many were laughed at up to the end.Many natural disasters have occurred in 20 minutes but we are taught in history that they TOOK MILLIONS OF YEARS.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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Is it just me or does anyone else think things are changing too fast lately. When I was young computers had punchcards. I had a commodore 128, actually I still have it. I owned a system 32 I bought used before that. Keeping up with modern technology sucks, everything is getting too complicated and has many possible ways to fail. It was nice when things you bought would be useful for many years, now....woof...they are useless in a few years. I wish I could get a toaster that can make good toast for more than two years.

The world as I knew it got really screwed up. what we have now is a mess, where people unwisely follow the lead of people who profit from our belief. at least the church only took ten percent of our money, the new economy takes more than we make. How many percent of the people in this country are worth as much as their debt if the economy takes a tumble. Houses could be worth little and stocks could crash loosing nearly all their value. How did we get so much trust into this deceitful system. I don't think this is a doom and gloom thread, I think it is an informational thread about our lack of awareness of the consequences of our perception.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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That is certainly part of it. Thank you very much for your wise words.





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