Revealed: Military emails show that NO U.S. sailors witnessed Bin Laden's secret burial at sea

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posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 06:29 PM
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The team that died in the helicopter crash was not the same group that killed Osama bin laden...two different groups. The helo was shot down, as the pilots were not the normal pilots who flour guys. They did not have the combat flying training that our seals us. These pilots were reservists and trying to get the guys to a call for help from the rangers. They flew low in a ravine, and we're shot down from above.




posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 06:46 PM
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Don't be so quick to believe ALL of what Matt bissonet wrote in " easy day" ..as what he is claiming in his book is not entirely all the truth of how it happened,.and some of his facts are incorrect and embellished....But you know, , it's all hype to sell a book and make a million dollars. No one wants to read a boring book on a mission. Matt's an ass. ...and so is his is bit** soon to be exwife. She is writing a book now to, shes writing a whole bunch of " i hate navy seals and their cheating life " crap...shes a piece of work. I actually think its funny /ironic in a Karmic way that they both have to now go into the witness protection program! ......thats what they get....
Osama bin laden was laid to rest in the sea..he did have an Islamic ceremony, and there were ony a few in attendance. There are pictures and there is DNA evidence that it was him. When will those pictures come out? Who knows... But eventually they will.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by Meldionne1
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There are pictures and there is DNA evidence that it was him. When will those pictures come out? Who knows... But eventually they will.


There are pictures and DNA evidence of nearly every human being on this planet.

In this case there is no body, there can't be. I wasn't possible.

The Pakistani ISI orchestrated the whole thing, and baited the US intelligence operatives with their "informants" the rest is history, at least however they choose to write it, pictures included or not.

Bin Laden was dead.

Or is he?

Anything could be possible here and that is by design. Once the news went through the media, it was too late to do anything else.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:02 PM
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But there is DNA evidence and pictures of bin laden when he was shot in Pakistan...so there is no disputing it. ..I don't understand why people purposely argue and make conspiracy theories out of the truth ..twisting and turning the truth to suit their own needs..look at the truth, don't bend it, ...example...the team killed in the helo crash was not the same guys who killed bin laden .two different squadrons( platoons). And the helo didn't explode, it was shot down that has happened several times before in those mountains. Seal team 10 was shot down several years back to... And you refuse to believe there was a burial at sea? because YOU were not privy to be there....sorry you have a hard reality coming. Not every thing is a conspiracy theory.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:12 PM
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I can make you pictures, video, and come up with DNA evidence and make a case for anything I wish to.

You'd believe it too.

The problem isn't in the proof they have, it is in the proof they don't have.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:13 PM
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What gets me in all of this is the dialysis machine, I am well acquainted with kidney failure, the guy was on dialysis as far back as 2001. Now he either had a kidney transplant (which I know the Government had to know about) or he didn't. So assuming he didn't wheres the dialysis machine ???

The whole story stinks ... I think he was a dead man 10 years ago



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:17 PM
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He was not ona dialysis machine...that's a false rumour started along time ago. But, we did shoot him in the shoulder in 2006 and he retreated into a cave that lead to tunnels and he got away. ....that's when he went silent for awhile..



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:28 PM
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That's not the point... The pictures are for proof for the public ...I am not in that circle. I'm trying to tell you that bin laden was actually buried at sea. And there was a small group to witness it. ..and your conspiracy theory is wrong....he didn't die years ago, he wasnt on a dialysis machine, and the CIA was not baited as you claim. ...They were walking around and saw cases of coca cola being offloaded in front of a restaurant there...they saw another van come and pick up the coca cola..they followed the van to the compound. Bin laden was addicted to coca cola., and they knew it.The many cases of coca cola was odd and that's how he was found....(.gives a whole new meaning to " have a coke and a smile" .)....Im sorry but you are not correct on this.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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And was found alive and well in Pakistan, where he had drugs, and pornography, living the high life in a secure compound, an elaborate raid was planned and executed, during the raid Bin Laden was killed and his body dumped at sea.later.

Everyone involved (including the president) are true American heroes. -The End-

"We have pictures and video, along with DNA evidence to prove it, also first hand accounts of those directly involved in the raid and handling the body" enough said?

Not really, but it will convince enough people... For now.

It is a great story.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Hmmmm..well...the next time you're in Virginia beach, look me up. And if it happens to be next July I'll take you to the navy seal/ udt reunion and you you talk with the guys who did the deed and threw him over board. How's that? Will that help you?



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Meldionne1
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Hmmmm..well...the next time you're in Virginia beach, look me up. And if it happens to be next July I'll take you to the navy seal/ udt reunion and you you talk with the guys who did the deed and threw him over board. How's that? Will that help you?


I have no doubt that they believe they got Bin Laden, and I can respect that.

What they don't know is of no consequence to them.

If we make it to July, I'll be happy to take your invitation and look you up.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:49 PM
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Cool see you then! ..you'll have a ton of fun, and I sure you'll get some Answers!



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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Maybe by then they'll get some answers they don't want.

We'll see. Lot can happen between now and then, all of this could be way, way down on the list of importance.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 08:57 PM
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I'll tell my husband that theory, but I assure you he will laugh at that,as he chased bin laden for a long time and when they finally got him, it was definitely him...but like I said, if you make it this way, look me up and we can debate over a beer or coffee depending of your poison!



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by Xaphan
I still don't believe that he was killed. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Pics or it didn't happen.


There's 3 possibilities:

1) he was killed in the raid
2) he died a long time ago from renal failure
3) his is the most miraculous case of kidney regeneration of all time

I guess there's a fourth, which would be magic / quantum jumping, but...eh...



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012

Revealed: Military emails show that NO U.S. sailors witnessed Bin Laden's secret burial at sea


www.dai lymail.co.uk

Internal emails among U.S. military officers indicate that no American sailors watched Osama bin Laden's burial at sea from the USS Carl Vinson, and traditional Islamic procedures were followed during the secret ceremony.

The emails, obtained by The Associated Press through the Freedom of Information Act, are heavily blacked out, but are the first public disclosure of government information about the al-Qaida leader's death.


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk...
(visit the link for the full news article)
edit on 23-11-2012 by Wonderer2012 because: (no reason given)


Not to rain on your parade but I've known about this quite awhile. A good friend of mine was onboard the Vinson when they supposedly flew Osama on board. They did not allow anyone to go the flight deck to attend the burial or anything. No witnesses as it were.

I have been telling people for YEARS that Obama didn't kill Osama bin laden - all he did was kill some guy that looked like him, then buried out in the middle of nowhere (ocean, against his tradition) with no witness except the seal team that "killed" him - and then conveniently (tragically really but convenient for BO) over half the Seal team (Seal team six I believe) died in a helicopter accident weeks later.

Yeah there's no cover up here....nothing to see here folks - move along.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
Pfffft, we all know that Osama is currently sitting on some sunny beach sipping pina coladas bought by the C.I.A.


What proof do you have that he ever existed at all?
He could be a 100% construct of the CIA.
The bin Ladens have 52 sons. Do you think they would care if
the US wanted to pretend they had 53 if it meant they got lucrative
contracts? I don't remember them saying squat the whole time.

Think about it.

If he was a CIA fictional boogeyman that could be given any dossier the CIA wanted,
credited with whatever op they needed, for as long as needed, and all they ever had
to do to prove him to the US population is some PR photo ops of at least three different
people featured in CIA approved videos.

edit on 24-11-2012 by PaperbackWriter because: fix context



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by Wonderer2012
So, only a very small percentage of the crew were even made aware that Bin Laden was onboard the USS Carl Vinson. Not only that, there was no autopsy report or death certificate.


First off, it shouldn't be a surprise to anybody who has served or are familiar with the fact that active duty personnel's correspondence is censored. SOP. Second, Autopsy? The guy had two in the head and one in the chest? What's it going to say? "He died from lead poisoning"? Third, Death certificate?

Really?

Death certificate?


I'm not saying there isn't something fishy {Excuse the pun} about the whole thing but they need to come up with something a bit more substantial imho.
edit on 23-11-2012 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)


It's standard procedure to perform an autopsy even if the cause of death is already known.

People who are murdered with bullets to the face still receive autopsies.

The death certificate is to say as a matter of fact, that this person is indeed, dead.

So, now we have the fact that NO American witnessed his sea burial. No pictures exist. No autopsy. No DNA. No death certificate. All adds up to, you guessed it... NO BODY.

I.E.

It never happened and there is no proof otherwise. Now admitted by the government. Fancy that.
edit on 24-11-2012 by Laykilla because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by PaperbackWriter

Originally posted by Zcustosmorum
Pfffft, we all know that Osama is currently sitting on some sunny beach sipping pina coladas bought by the C.I.A.


What proof do you have that he ever existed at all?
He could be a 100% construct of the CIA.
The bin Ladens have 52 sons. Do you think they would care if
the US wanted to pretend they had 53 if it meant they got lucrative
contracts? I don't remember them saying squat the whole time.

Think about it.

If he was a CIA fictional boogeyman that could be given any dossier the CIA wanted,
credited with whatever op they needed, for as long as needed, and all they ever had
to do to prove him to the US population is some PR video of at least three different
people featured in CIA approved videos.



Very good point and whether or not it's true, there definitely had to be a face to put to this evil, destruction bringing group of terror that was being portrayed in the media.

The media said they had massive fortresses with huge steel reinforcements carved in mountains, in reality it was nothing more than a few caves. The minsinformation/disinformation on the "desert demons"
started within an hour of 9/11.
edit on 24-11-2012 by Zcustosmorum because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 10:16 PM
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I have not read this entire thread, but I have read that there were not any dialysis machine's found at place Osama was staying.
Then I heard , Oh, he didn't have kidney failure he just had kidney stone, sounds like bull to me.





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