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Why does America always need to be involved in wars? Why don't the elite just enjoy their riches?

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posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by shapur
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War is a very practical tool in the hands of empires...They gain control and stability by it and they also make a fortune selling arms to the frightened nations being directly or indirectly involved in the war...War is also a good unifier of countries and best alternative to blame all the shortcomings of governments on...Most dictatorships use war as a mean to stay on power and make sure to continue as such...They are also about controlling resources and influencing other nations or slaving them...And of course geopolitics and the balance of power....None of the above are qualified as a justified reason to start a war which is to DEFEND against a foreign invader.....And America has never done that.


Ok so war is profitable. But why can't the elites or corporatocracy just find other ways to make a profit, such as selling non-violent products and services, like good mom and pop businesses in America do?

Btw, in the movie JFK by Oliver Stone, the Mr. X character tells Jim Garrison:

"The organizing principle of any society is war."

Where is that quote from? It sounds familiar. And what does it mean?




posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Because they can't. it is too big; www.brillig.com... The interest a year is $12,922,741,407.27 for 2013 (that's a lot of money): www.treasurydirect.gov... Please read this as well:
www.washingtonpost.com... e2-af17-67abba0676e2_story.html



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by WWu777

I was wondering something. Why is it that America always seem to need to be involved in some war? ... Does the American government love pain, horror and tragedy or something?


Whether you believe my following answers will depend on your cosmology. If your cosmology is accurate to 'objective' reality, then you will likely believe these answers.

If your cosmology has bought the globalist propaganda for the last 150+ years, then you will likely scoff at these answers.

Does the the American government . . . [i.e. the globalists beyond the American government that use the American government as their puppet] love pain, horror and tragedy . . . ?

[color=6699FF]ACTUALLY, THEY LITERALLY DO. Well, their demonic, fallen angel bosses do. Satan is still angry over being kicked out of Heaven for his rebellion against God Almighty. And he's determined to throw sand in God's eyes the only way he can--by destroying as many of God's favorite creation--humans--as he can--seducing them into lies and horror to spend a very long time in his prison with him.



Here's what I don't get. Why can't the elite oligarchy who rule America and its military industrial complex just enjoy their lives from their ivory towers and have a party everyday with their big bank accounts and income from US taxpayers? Why the need for constant war and conflict?


They have bought into the lies from the "ET" critters--the fallen angel deceivers that they MUST reduce the global population to 200-500 million in order to 'save mankind' and the planet as habitable. That's a lie. They have the technology to make the deserts bloom and host a population on the world many tens of times what it is now. However, they know that they couldn't maintain their tyrannical power easily over that many.

Mostly, their boss, satan just loves blood, gore, suffering. Witness the many movies of such ilk the last decades.



Aren't these elite ever bothered at night when they think about all the innocent people who die in their wars?


Some may be. Some are so demonized . . . all they can think about is the next evil deeds they are plotting. Most demonized folks are miserable. But they don't know any way out and refuse to apply the only solution to their bondage--the Blood of Jesus The Christ. Some are beyond hope--their wills have been in bondage so long, they no longer have much free will at all. Quite pathetic.



Does the military industrial complex put its own people into Washington to control it? Why would politicians and the corporate elites defend the interests of the military industrial complex and obey what they say?


Anyone who doesn't play their game in positions of significant power gets shoved out of the way or terminated from this life. Some have their entire extended families threatened with death.

These are people who bugger and then brutally sacrifice to satan toddler little boys to gain initiation into the upper ranks of leadership.

These are NOT nice . . . 'innocent' . . . uhhhh secret group members, folks.



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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If you don't have ANY idea of why we AND the United Nations sent troops to Korea why don't you pick up a book you dim bulb.Oh wait you needed SOME BS excuse for an U.S.bashing thread based on your oh so keen observations



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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The masterminds behind this great conspiracy have absolute control of all of our mass-communications media, especially television, the radio, the press, and Hollywood.
We all know that our State Department, the Pentagon, and the White House have brazenly proclaimed that they have the right and the power to manage the news, to tell us not the truth but what they want us to believe.
They have seized that power on orders from their masters of the great conspiracy and the objective is to brainwash the people into accepting the phony peace bait to transform the United States into an enslaved unit of the United Nations' one-world government.

Thats the Answer to your thread.
There reason: They want it all.......



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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The Elite play 'tour of duty' with real soldiers, firing real bullets (sorry, rounds) at other real people, it looks more authentic to 'them'



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by pikestaff
The Elite play 'tour of duty' with real soldiers, firing real bullets (sorry, rounds) at other real people, it looks more authentic to 'them'

In the final phases of the "Tour of Duty Game "there trying to come out with, the one-world government will consist of the king-dictator; the head of the United Nations, and a few billionaires, economists, and scientists who have proved their devotion to the great conspiracy.
All others are to be integrated into a vast mongrelized humanity.....Slaves
There will allways be a war like in the East, the people of the slaves will breed terrorist groups.



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by WWu777


Aren't these elite ever bothered at night when they think about all the innocent people who die in their wars?



Yes. The elite are bothered that they are NOT killing enough humans. This is their goal. Ultimate control and enjoyment of their riches will come once we're gone.



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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Simple:

Imagine you have 90 % of the world's wealth, with years it gets boring,
However, you realize that your wealth is attracting important people, presidents royalties and high figures in your community, so it makes it easy for you to manipulate them with your money, therefore controlling the country for you and that's what I call a real life game, Watch people playing World of warcraft, why are they so addictive to it? they want money and control more and more of it, it's human nature its called greed, even though you act humble, anyways, it is fun to see all your wishes come true, so years pass by and you get bored.

You get smarter gaining experience in the control factor, so you create a veil, which means working behind the curtains, While your loyal high figures do the bad works for you, seeing that you controlled your geographical area, (your country) so you give orders to expand the control to other countries in the name of whatever a good reason it is.

You see people are growing in numbers, and the world resources are on high demand, so you think, ummm those people have to die, well at lease half of them, so you create a strategies, divide to conquer, make wars to gain money and kill innocent people, to lower the population, reason is, 1-more money from war 2-save world resources 3- control.

Hope you get the idea.

Simple explanation, the more money you have the more greed you are to be,

A very poor guy wishes for a hot meal

A mid class guy wishes for a good and decent life to his family

A rich guy wishes to double his money

A billionaire wishes to satisfy the elites

The Elites wishes to control them all.

edit on 23-11-2012 by Chongun because: corrections



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 01:51 PM
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war is an industry, and more profits come from growing your industry since the taxpayer covers the bill.

there is barely a shred of sanity to usa foreing policy, the bs has been around for so long it's like a religeous cult.
the followers blindly beleive the bs.

war makes money, so people sell their souls for a paycheck.

don't try to find reason or wisdom to america's love of war, it's just corporatized evil.

presidents are nothing but front men for a machine long out of control, they must feed the beast or be replaced.

the ussr went bankrupt in the 1990's and their troops came home.
the french went bankrupt in the 1950s and brought 500k troops home.

the only hope for the world to stop suffering from american militarism is for the usa to go bankrupt, unfortunately.
imo, otherwise the special interest groups that prosper from the killings will always find another target.

the usa spends billions every year on lying to it's people and the world.

the lies about the bay of tonkins justified bombing north vietnam.
the lies about weapons of mass destruction justified the rape of iraq.
and today the criminals have their eyes on iran.

evil is evil, don't expect better behavior anytime soon.
edit on 23-11-2012 by citizen6511 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 02:25 PM
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They are at war for you.

I don't know you; but (truthfully) can you tell me you don't enjoy freedom? Can you tell me you don't enjoy an xbox, a car, a home?

Let's not lie if the uk and the US didnt enter these wars life would be a lot (or a marginally) harder for us.

I am interested in you response.

ALS



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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Well with regarding the wars during the Cold War period it was the United States responding to a perceived threat of armed Communist invasions, and the people who were running foreign policy had taken the tact that doing nothing in the 30s in face of armed aggression lead to the horrible Second World War, and so moved to stop it. Other wars were fought similar political calculation or in the case of Iraq, a mixture of interests including a ambitious if failed nation building project to install Western culture into the Middle East.

As with regards to all the talks about how wars stimulate the economy and such, it doesn't sure military producers may make some money off it, but generally wars deterrent to economic growth, that's funds going into non productive stuff like tanks and jet planes. Wars are costly and destructive and screw with politicians plans, Nam cost so much it was one of the reasons why we went off the gold standard. Only reason why it worked in the World War 2 was a unique set of situations that probably will never occur again.

Or in other-words the theoretical oligarch in control of everything would make more money selling stuff to China or buying stuff in China and selling it in the US, than he would secretly and shadowy ordering the US Pacfic Fleet to blow up China.



posted on Nov, 23 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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There is a triumvirate in the world that consists of three areas that are inside of countries but are completely separate from the countries themselves. The first is Washington DC, the second is the Rothschilds financial centre inside of the city of London and the third is the Vatican. The USA ceased being a country in 1877 when it became a corporation with the president of the USA actually the president of the corporation. The three branches are responsible worldwide for military, money and minds. They even have a flag.
The purpose of the elite is to bring the enslavement of the herd, to a pinnacle of perverted control. Their agenda does permit them to retreat into their money. The job is not done and they work for a master that is unrelenting. Wars are essential and serve multiple purposes, as they compete with opposing factions within the elite. They all want full control and everything for a very few and they scheme and back stab their way to hoped dominance. They view us a grossly inferior to them and initiate mass death, where it suits the purpose of their agenda. They really are not like us, they are psychopathic/sociopathic monsters, without conscience and care only for themselves. They are the ones that are pedophiles and harbor every perversion on the planet. If you expect them to behave in a sane manner, you are incredibly naive. Reasoning with these monsters is like reasoning with a guillotine blade, as it falls to your neck. If you play their game and it is all their game, you will lose. They are nothing that we want and their world all ends in your perversion because you must sellout to be part of their world. You have a conscience but most rationalize to accept the evil systems that are this world. It is a mistake from the get go.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 12:03 AM
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it's all a chess game to "them" and we're nothing more than pawns, all caught up in their boredom for entertainments sake. checkmate will be coming soon.



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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I'm rich. My poorer neighbors down the hill were attacked by armed robbers last month. I could see it from my house on my telescope.

But instead we carried on with our BBQ at the poolside because we just wanted to enjoy our riches on our hilltop vantage point without any danger, and besides, it wasn't our problem.


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posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 03:47 AM
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America doesn't spread war, it just defends itself from would-be aggressors and spreads democracy and freedom. The soldiers in Iraq are there right now defending your freedom and upholding the constitution. God bless America!

*snicker*

Okay I'm done trolling



posted on Nov, 24 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by WWu777


Here's what I don't get. Why can't the elite oligarchy who rule America and its military industrial complex just enjoy their lives from their ivory towers and have a party everyday with their big bank accounts and income from US taxpayers? Why the need for constant war and conflict?

Aren't these elite ever bothered at night when they think about all the innocent people who die in their wars?

Does the military industrial complex put its own people into Washington to control it? Why would politicians and the corporate elites defend the interests of the military industrial complex and obey what they say?


Really good questions and as others have said, it isn't about money, it is about control.

At the very top of this pyramid, you could even argue the forces that play this world like a chess board are not even human- they see us as pawns in a game.

I can't tell you how or why it is happening, it just is.

Remember that we don't know who the elite are, we only know the puppets that serve them. Obama, Cameron, Hilary Clinton etc- they serve money- they sell us out for money and power to do the bidding of the elite. Above the politicians are forces calling the shots that don't care about money, they have no empathy, they just want control.





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