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Originally posted by schmae
So , I'm confused.
Is this ANOTHER one of these instances where we are told by our govt and media that ' dictator' is bad, but he
is not really so bad?
Is that what is going on here? And please forgive my ignorance. This is a fresh
subject for me. But I do know in the past that the media can point a finger overseas and say ' bad guy' and
we just believe it and cheer for his removal.
Is he a good guy? Is he a bad guy ?
Is it up for debate?
Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by Swills
They sure are full of fail lately, here are a couple more recent examples:
This one is totally obvious...
And let's not forget ABC editing Assad to make him look worse in the public eye...
The aired version...
And the full unedited interview...
Fail boat indeed!
The sad thing is that there are a ton of people falling for this crap, but thankfully most of us know better.
Originally posted by DarknStormy
reply to post by DragonFire1024
I prefer the west and terrorists staying out of Syrias internal issues.. The current situation was created by the FSA and their foreign minions. So yes, I would back Assad simply because before the FSA entered the arena, everything seemed peaceful in Syria regardless of what Assad has been accused of in the past.
It is also well known that the FSA has been infiltrated by known terrorsit groups from across the Middle East. To me, endorsing, supporting or even recognising the FSA as the legitimate government of Syria is dangerous for not just the Middle East, but also the world.
We keep hearing how worried the west are of Terrorists getting their hands on WMD's yet we have no problems toppling a government who have been in possession,, have never used their stockpile of Chemical/Biological weapons. By giving power to the FSA, you are also giving Terrorist networks a very good opportunity to acquire materials which could be used in weapons of their own remembering, terrorists are working side by side with the FSA. Even the very terrorist network that was accused of bringing down the twin towers 11 years ago. You should be insulted by the western powers...edit on 22-11-2012 by DarknStormy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DragonFire1024
Peaceful? Until Assad started blowing up his own people at protests.
If I didn't know any better I would say you work for Syrian State TV because that's exactly what they would say...that everyone fighting Assad is a terrorist. If you have a problem with someone supporting the FSA, go yell at France for recognizing them as the legit government of Syria.
Saddam had WMD...he used them on his own people. And last I checked, the USA hasn't toppled a government with WMD or suspected WMD since Saddam.
Terrorists will always exist. Hate will always exist. And as far as I know, Al Qaeda doesn't have WMD. Nor did Afghanistan. If anything, I should be insulted by the fact the my government is wasting its time with taking out "terrorists" without actually having an effect on terrorism itself.
"Think for a moment how very unreal or surreal an undertaking, that another group of nations ‘create’ a government, allegedly for Syria, then install them in another nation entirely, Egypt. Yet recognize them as the legitimate representative government of the chosen targeted country. All done without the consent or vote of the Syrian populace... How very freedom loving and democratic? How very bizarre. Insane. Upside down.
Pick your descriptor?"
The conflict began on 15 March 2011 with nationwide demonstrations as part of the wider protest movement known as the Arab Spring. Protesters demanded the resignation of President Bashar al-Assad, as well as the end to nearly five decades of Ba'ath Party rule. In April 2011, the Syrian Army was deployed to quell the uprising, and soldiers were ordered to open fire on civilians. After months of military sieges, the protests evolved into an armed rebellion.
I cannot change a thing when it comes to Syria but I will let you know what my stance is. Speaking about Syrian State TV, I remember the FSA bombing one of them and killing journalists. True freedom fighters they, hey?
What does Saddam have to do with Assad and Syria?
Your government and European governments are funding the FSA and it is well known that terrorist groups are operating in Syria. The problem I have is that those very groups were public enemy number one a decade ago. Here we are today funding and weaponising the very people who are accused of attacks on the USA and Europe.
The other issue I see is just a repeating cycle concerning those groups.Yeah, yous got rid of Osama and yous may aswell of declared the war on terror won. Now we have more hardcore fundamentalists tearing countries apart with the support of western governments and somewhere down the track when the Jihadists wake up, they are going to do the exact same thing as Osama. What happens after that?