reply to post by Jerk_Idiot
Actually, no I haven't excluded the "conservative" position. We haven't gotten there yet in a way. The fiscal conservatives generally speak of
living within ones means. The idea of "creating wealth" is a pretty fascinating thing. I have always enjoyed the wording of that clever catch
phrase. Now I am going to state this...as the intention from day one has been...as bone simple as I can.
How do you "create wealth"? If I am a Rockefeller or a Vanderbuilt, I decide I am going to make kerosene or lay hundreds of miles of new train tracks
to corner the market of delivering products across the country. People buy my product or service because, it's wonderful! and they need it. I amass
a fortune. Where do you think that money comes from? Do you think it just magically appears because someone creates a new product? No, it is just
"redistributing" the money that is already in circulation into a upward funnel...or...the Gov and the fed print more currency. The first example
there is part of the problem we are experiencing. The money is being funneled "up" to large conglomerate corporations that are not raining it back
down...they are not even trickling it back down. They are sitting on it in tax shelters.
In the past, people starved for the same reasons they do today. In a world of plenty manipulation of scarcity and distribution is a means of control
and influence. It is still greed and selfishness based. be it greed of power or greed of wealth is irrelevant.
The reason the west gives back the land instead of conquering it is called "human farming'. It is much easier to get your livestock to produce if
they think they are in control. The winners do not give up their influence at the top levels. The losers might not have to change their name or even
their system of Gov but do not be deceived...they still have to do what they are told.
The moral war and the social experiment. Killing your livestock means they cannot produce for you anymore. That is actually pretty stupid. It is
better to keep them barely alive and under your control than to kill them off...and control is actually rather easy...manipulate the food, and other
necessities of life. Oh wait...
Ford, Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Rockefeller...aka...the Robber Barons...they were not saints. They were somewhat different than our modern day Robber
Barons, but not much. Bill Gates (though retired now supposedly) is not a saint either but he may be the lesser of the evils of the mega
corporations. Many of his employees make/made a decent wage and he does give lots of money away in charity.
Ford, Vanderbilt, Carnegie, Rockefeller...they all reached a point of wealth where it was not the acquisition of wealth that consumed them
anymore...it was the acquisition of power they wanted. They wanted to run things...everything...and guess what? For a time they did...till the Gov
gave the people it's Republic back...and here is another "Guess what?" for you...we are there again...but the Gov is not giving our Republic back...we
are going to have to take it.
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