The truth about truth is that it hurts a lot.
This is a wonderful example. This discussion is so sad. It becomes a heated debate about who has the most silly looking ears. Maybe was from the
The truth is: Few, if any, have provided a model on any scale for a structure that behaves as the twins did. Namely, progressively collapsing from top
to bottom (bonus points for doing this just a few minutes after the initial impulse is given) yet.
I can come up with some. They require no explosives, aliens, free energy laser beams from outer space or nuclear bombs.
But I admit that all my models require a little mechanical thinking. They're clever inventions. They are MEANT to be destroyed. They're traps, not
houses. And here's the candy: in order to make them work, everything must be precisely
in place, otherwise it gets stuck (which the towers only
did when the collapse front reached the underground stories).When things can go wrong with a structure, things fall off, tip, tilt, warp, break.
Because falling through itself is real tough.
What physically has happened is a compression
. This has to do with tension, pressure, volume and all that. Mathematically, this is the same
approach Bazant has taken with his F*s model, physically, just from another viewpoint. Realistically, all of this has nothing to do with building a
If you argue that psikeys model, or a house made of cards, or a jenga tower is better architecture than what experts are building, thouse should take
some advise and stop building large houses because they don't know what they're doing.
And you may argue fire, plane, clear-cut steel beams, scraped-off fire insulation, trusses, kerosene, office material, furnace effect, gravity,
scaling problems, unknown parameters all the way you want, each tower was, at the moment of collapse, 3 times weaker than it would have needed to
support itself and was subjected to stresses magnitudes above its true tolerance.
No engineer will tell you that, because you would not believe, because you wouldn't want to believe, and you don't even know why you believe that what
you think is true, so this engineer would still have "no clue" in your eyes. Because the experts say, that... the collapse was, quote: "inevitable"
Fair enough, when challenging existing theories, one has to come up with a new explanation. Here are some.
There's something about steel which we don't know, there's something about large structures in general we don't know, there's something about
complexity and metastable systems we don't know, there is something about relativistic, atmospheric or paranormal effects which we don't know - or all
If you defend the explanation given by NIST, Bazant and others so far, my saying this will not make you stop and think about building a model of the
WTC that collapses anything like the original did. You will instead ask for evidence from my part that the twins couldn't collapse they did, which of
course I cannot, logically, because it is impossible to prove the nonexistance of something. There is still a slight chance that this was slipshod
architecture. If so, it was fvxx0r3d up on such a massive, epic, grand scale, that someone would have knocked on some engineer's doors.
Understanding all this would not be without consequences and implications. These are huge.
To pull this thing off, the perps would have to have known that they'll get through with it. It would mean they had prepared it all. The process
Feynman worries about in "Surely you're joking" - "experts" who understand nothing about their subject - would need to be completed, the fear,
blindness and idiocy level of 1984 and The Matrix combined surpassed.
But it was also a wake-up call: from now on, the rules not just of physics, logic, love and peace have changed. Everybody knows something's not right,
and everybody is trying to explain it away - even many of those "Experts for Truth", leading astray laymen who know intuitively - because they have
worked with their hands, not with their noses in books - that something is very wrong with the picture we're getting of the world we're living in.
Others shrug it off because all the other explanations are so outlandish, the topic so complex and the experts have studied this stuff for years, they
should know what they're talking about unless they're some paranoid crackpots.
The collapse was inevitable, on this we might agree. Some, because they genuinely believe towers collapse that way when struck by an airplane. Others,
because it was planned, engineered, well lubricated, predicted and went "smooth" (for the most part).
In any case: these guys knew what they were doing. And we're still alive. Hooray for them, they know how to care about things, why should we worry?
We're just stupid, uneducated laymen.
Oh, beware, it is dangerous, the truth, it will hurt, it will make you sad, because it is never what you think it is.
edit on 9-1-2013 by
Akareyon because: clarification