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If all truthers had just said 'that defies physics, wtf?'
Originally posted by ANOK
reply to post by GenRadek
So why did the core collapse then? And please don't try to tell me the core couldn't stand without the floors.
The core couldn't stand without the floors. It had no resistance to overturning moments and would collapse in light wind.
I state that removing all truss structures and core beam flooring on floor # 18 would not collapse the structure and indeed it would remain standing without these elements.
Originally posted by totallackey
If there is nothing else that proves OS'ers (even though there is truly no OS) have no leg to stand on, this truly indicates the twisted nature of the thought process. On the one hand, the core could not stand without the floors, yet on the other it would remain standing...remarkable double talk.
Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by psikeyhackr
So why hasn't any engineering school built a physical model that can duplicate this so called collapse?
Originally posted by psikeyhackr
[So why hasn't any engineering school built a physical model that can duplicate this so called collapse?
They have only had ELEVEN YEARS.
9/11 is a huge global psychological issue.
But a normal skyscraper has columns 30 feet apart. That means there would be 24 columns in an area 90 by 150 feet. But the core had 47 columns in 85 by 135 feet. So the core had an 84% higher column density than the grid skyscrapers that you think are so great but then claim the core could not hold itself up.
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by psikeyhackr
But a normal skyscraper has columns 30 feet apart. That means there would be 24 columns in an area 90 by 150 feet. But the core had 47 columns in 85 by 135 feet. So the core had an 84% higher column density than the grid skyscrapers that you think are so great but then claim the core could not hold itself up.
But since you are not a strructual engineer you are going on a hunch.
No proof just like all the other angles of this conspiracy.
Originally posted by psikeyhackr
YAWN
The same BS I have seen and heard before and before and before.
So why hasn't any engineering school built a physical model that can duplicate this so called collapse?
They have only had ELEVEN YEARS.
9/11 is a huge global psychological issue.
Conformity and Cultural Conditioning
www.beyondmentalslavery.com...
rer.sagepub.com...
The 9/11 religion is just a really stupid form of insanity.
Originally posted by psikeyhackr
We constantly get this crap about the WTC collapsing because it was not a normal skyscraper.
But a normal skyscraper has columns 30 feet apart. That means there would be 24 columns in an area 90 by 150 feet. But the core had 47 columns in 85 by 135 feet. So the core had an 130% higher column density than the grid skyscrapers that you think are so great but then claim the core could not hold itself up.
Real Intelligent!
(47÷(85×135))÷(24÷(90×150))
psikedit on 29-11-2012 by psikeyhackr because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by psikeyhackr
The obvious is not a hunch. That is why this 9/11 Truth is so dangerous.
Our structural engineers are liars about 300 year old grade school physics.
Laymen have to be kept ignorant and convinced that they are stupid.
That column density is a very simple calculation.
psik
Originally posted by exponent
The core couldn't stand without the floors. It had no resistance to overturning moments and would collapse in light wind.
Originally posted by ANOK
Originally posted by exponent
The core couldn't stand without the floors. It had no resistance to overturning moments and would collapse in light wind.
Absolute nonsense.
The core help up the floors, the floors had nothing to do with holding up the core.
Overturning moments? LMAO. From it's own mass? Sorry but high-rise buildings simply cannot produce enough energy form their own mass to destroy themselves. Especially a steel framed building. Not enough energy to bend columns with no cracking or buckling.
IF the core became unstable because the floors all "fell down the tube", then it would not have followed the floors down vertically. Sorry but that is just common sense.
So how did the floors all fall down the tube anyway? Why didn't the collapse slow and stop from the loss of Ke to overcoming resistance? And no, the build up of mass of accumulating collapsing floors is not the answer, as the resistance would slow the collapse before that had a chance to happen. The weight of the floors would not be more than the resistance of welds and bolts holding them up. A floor could have easily been dropped on another floor, without collapsing the impacted floor.
The structure had to be able to hold far more weight that it actually was. Learn what Factor of safety (FoS) is.
Originally posted by ANOK
Absolute nonsense.
The core help up the floors, the floors had nothing to do with holding up the core.
Overturning moments? LMAO. From it's own mass? Sorry but high-rise buildings simply cannot produce enough energy form their own mass to destroy themselves. Especially a steel framed building. Not enough energy to bend columns with no cracking or buckling.
IF the core became unstable because the floors all "fell down the tube", then it would not have followed the floors down vertically. Sorry but that is just common sense.
So how did the floors all fall down the tube anyway? Why didn't the collapse slow and stop from the loss of Ke to overcoming resistance? And no, the build up of mass of accumulating collapsing floors is not the answer, as the resistance would slow the collapse before that had a chance to happen.
The weight of the floors would not be more than the resistance of welds and bolts holding them up. A floor could have easily been dropped on another floor, without collapsing the impacted floor.
The structure had to be able to hold far more weight that it actually was. Learn what Factor of safety (FoS) is.