Will we run out of music?

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posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by AlexIR
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True, but we take inspiration from other people's work and we will most surely copy, this slows the originality process which gives us time to create more original music.


One of the most influential bands in the history of music....The Beatles. They did a lot of copying. A lot of their earlier songs where you hear them sing the occasional " Wooooo" in that high pitched falseto,they have openly admited that they took that from the Isley brothers.

And I don't think anyone will ever accuse The Beatles of being unoriginal or of having their creative process slowed. It is natural to find inspiration from other peoples work or even to take things that other people did and use that for your own creative purposes.

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posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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I don't think so, as long as an artist has a muse there will always be art, everyone who writes songs uses the same note and chords, however they only sound the same when there is no originality, i.e. Radiohead were and still are an original sounding band, and don't sound like anyone else in my view, but because The Bends was so popular, records companies scoured the UK for similar sounding bands, like Travis and Coldplay, those two bands basically rewrite the same album everytime they go into a studio, whereas originators like Radiohead continue to experiment.:-)



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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How can we run out of music when there are so many improvasationalist [is that a word] out there?

Have all the riffs been played? Perhaps but the Blues abides.

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posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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Yes. Two different artists can even sing the same song with the same melody and same lyrics and I can appreciate the differences if each adds their own flavor.

But regarding the analyses in the OP, they really didn't touch enough on the fact that many of the mathematical calculations for alternate versions of music would just sound "hideous". Some modern compositions sound absolutely horrible to me, so while there are many more combinations of unusual melodies like that, most people don't want to hear them because they don't sound good.

So in a way, I think we probably are running out of completely original music, partly for that reason. But as long as I can enjoy something as similar as two different artists each adding their own "flavor" to the exact same song, I don't think it matters. I still want to hear both if both are well done and will enjoy them for their own unique characteristics. One example that comes to mind is when Natalie Cole added her voice to the same song her father sang.

The music is the same....but the different vocals make it different. Anyone who has heard both recordings probably knows what I mean.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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Hey, can never tire of good music, it's not the notes you play that counts, it's how you play 'em



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by olaru12
How can we run out of music when there are so many improvasationalist [is that a word] out there?

Have all the riffs been played? Perhaps but the Blues abides.
This gets to the issue:

How do you define what is new music?

By one definition the same song with a different riff can be considered new.
By another definition, the same song with a different riff can be considered the same song, and not really new.

Arguments for both cases seem valid so it's hard to say one is more right than the other.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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One of the great bands of all time were guilty of plagiarism on many counts, but as I said they played the notes right to create one hell of a sound




Still disappointing to find out though



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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People knock on atonality alot, but the rock in opposition movement involved just that



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 01:35 PM
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I just can't see how it's possible to run out of music when you take into account the bazillion different sounds you can make from the bazillion different mediums used to make those sounds. And then all the possible combinations of those sounds to form a song.

Music has been around since the first time a caveman paid attention to the different sounds made from falling raindrops hitting a rock, the grass, a lake, a dead carcass, etc...

Frank Zappa started his music career by playing with a violin bow and the various parts of a bicycle.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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There are infinite possibilities in music. You will never "run out" of new music unless you have a very limited idea of what good music is.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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I must ask, how many of you watched the first video and how many of you have watched the series "Everything is a remix" ?

They are linked in the first post, and i must ask you to check them out.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Jordan River

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
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we are in danger of running out of good music



I saw the video last night and the answer is NO

You don't know what good music is

good music is complex.




After 31 seconds of hearing this I can tell you that your good music is really annoying.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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It's impossible to run out of musical ideas....

There are endless permutations of notes that can be used to create a melody.....

You can sit on your chair now and come up with a new melody in one minute......easy, peazy, lemon squeezy..............

I have been doing music for the last 30 or so years and I have never failed to create a new melody, that is why music is so brilliant....

But I will add one thought though. Some of the modern day music which appears in the charts is supposed to be music, but many of these so called songs seem to lack any real kind of melody, there doesn't seem to be any kind of hook, but people still buy them which totally perplexes me to say the least....

So bearing that in mind, it just shows that you don't even need a melody these days in order to make money out of music, people will still buy it anyway....

So maybe music is changing now and will become an art form that in many years time some of us old codgers will not understand whatsoever....

Just glad I was born and about when I was....
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posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 02:57 PM
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like it or not, this is music




posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 03:27 PM
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You will subconciously copy and change a song you already heard at least once, its our human brain that does this so being original is quite hard if "you're not fluent in the language of music", as being said in everything is a remix.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Some would argue we've already run out of music.



Most of the most famous songs of the past 20-50 years have used the same chords from this baroque period piece Canon in D.

But there are some interesting types of music coming out of the techno world. Dubstep is the latest to go mainstream. And I'm sure there will be more.
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posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 04:13 PM
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we will never run out of music, but we will probably run out of types of music.
every few years a new type of music comes out.
in the late 70's punk came out. which was totally original. since then theres been a lot of different forms of music. some inspired by others. the next original type of music was rap. which inspired hip hop which inspired dance music-house,techno etc. there has'nt been another totally original type of music since rap. dubstep maybe, but surely it has been created from dance music.
so i reckon its types of music will be less original, but we'll never run out of music



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 04:28 PM
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The number of possible configurations of musical notes is astronomical(incalculable even).....would they all sound good....no, but I highly doubt were anywhere close to running out of possibilities.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by SecretKnowledge
we will never run out of music, but we will probably run out of types of music.



This is one of my big complaints in life.
When I was growing up, new musical styles were invented. Types of music that nobody had ever heard before.
Rap, Punk Rock, Electronic Synth, Death Metal, Techno, Disco, Prog Rock, etc.. and many more...
Like them or not, they were different, and original.
But some time ago, all this stopped.

So I was thinking back then...
"When I get older, I'm not going to be like my parent generation and lose touch with the modern "pop" music. I'm going to stay in touch and know whats happening in the music scene."
But I didnt.
Because nothing new was invented, and each time I hear a "new" song, I cant help thinking its boringly derivative, sounds like something I heard before, not new, been there done that, a copy, not original.

I never expected "new" music to become... dull.





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