Originally posted by Hydroman
What I know of Angels (and I don't know much) are that they are created beings by the god of the bible. They were created to be ministering spirits.
But I suppose if they were created sometime before humans, who did they minister to (Hebrews 1:14)? They are also messengers (Matthew 1:20). If
they were created before humans, who did they give messages to?
From my understanding according to a conglomeration of the Book of Enoch and the Bible, 1/3 of the angels rebelled against their god because they did
not want to be servants to the humans. (Wasn't that why god created them to begin with? Who else would they minister to and send messages to?)
Star & Flag - for very interesting questions that no doubt all believers and even non-believers have.
Everyone who has posted a reply has made some very good points and everyone's thoughts and idea's on this age old subject are Important !
Very interesting indeed for all who study the scriptures. However there are some " Creation Facts " that cannot be " Over-Looked " even by
believers. The Biblical Creation Story Facts are the Facts, as have been left to man in the form of the biblical scriptures. While studying the
biblical creation story facts, one must be honest within themselves seeking the ultimate truth and bottom line story of the creation story handed down
to man in the scriptures.
Let me preface my biblical observations and study's below with some very basic and simple facts of how case's are judged in a court of law.
Example: If someone robs a bank in New York, and You live in any other nation or state in the world, and You where no where near New York at the time
of the bank robbery, You are Not going to be found guilty of that Bank Robery in New York. That is just basic and simple " common sense " judgement
and law that everyone can understand.
Now read the following " Case History "
Let us not forget that " God made the angels, Before Us " as the story is told in the scriptures. As a scriptural reminder, here is one scripture
everyone will recognize.
Deuteronomy Chapter 6: verse 4 - " Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one. "
Somewhere back in Ancient History - (biblically and Before The: Creation of earth “in the beginning”), when God was all by Himself, he Created "
the angels " - God is " Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omniscient " which means that God knows the Future!
Now, we know that it is stated in the scriptures that God knows the Future, God is All Powerfull, and God is Omnipresent !
So, now that we " all know " that God knows everything, one cannot help but see the obvious conclusions and contradictions in the whole creation
The " Area of Proof " that God is not perfect, is when God tells us about how he created the angels. .
The fallen angel lucifer or satan is the main proof that God is not perfect. To create or make many angels in antiquity, "God only knows when" and
for one of these angels that God made to rebel against God, that shows an " Imperfect Creation " of an angel.
An all knowing, and an all seeing God, who " Knows The Future " could Easily have seen or known that lucifer was " Not Perfect. " For a " Perfect
God " to make or create an " Imperfect Creation " shows that God is not perfect.
And also these obvious questions:
Why would " God " like or want " Gold " ??? and Why would God tell Adam in the first book of the bible about Gold ??? and God even says that "
the Gold is Good " Why is the gold good ?
Why would Adam and Eve even want or need gold ??? Gold is very Heavy like Lead. Adam can't eat the gold, or does God want Adam to make himself a nice
new shiny Rolex watch??? Come on, what's this Fascination by " God " with " Gold " ??? Does an Infinite and an All Wise God like Shiny Gold
watches and rings...??? What's with Gods interest in gold ???
Is Sitchin's interpretation of the ancient Sumerian clay tablets beginning to make any sense here....?
What is the real bottom line story here on this planet earth? Entertainment ? Gold ? Love ? Endless Wars ?
Wow, talk about Endless Fascinating Brutal Entertainment... So Which Is It ???
Is the Bottom line theme and story on all of "Gods Creation" Love ? Gold ? or Endless Wars of Misery and Slaughter of People ? For " Gods "
So... Which is It... ?