Originally posted by Mrgone
And just so you understand my position. This isn't a"witch hunt". I'm just curious to know if you've read it all the way through, what religion
you are, and what you believe?
Yep, I've read the Bible from cover to cover many, many times.
Most Christians don't - and most denominations don't teach huge swathes of the Bible at all. For example, I go to a Presbyterian church (though I
don't consider myself Presbyterian), and it's very rare to hear a sermon from the Old Testament. Even if you DO hear a sermon from the Old
Testament, Presbyterians tend to treat the OT as allegory rather than literal teaching, which is a mistake in my opinion.
I've been a Christian since I was about six - so... 25 years now, and in that time, have gone from... growing up in a Christian family (my father
is a preacher), to getting married and having my own family, going through an abusive marriage, getting divorced, fighting for custody of my daughter
(which I won), and now... remarrying.
As you might be able to imagine, going through those things meant a whole lot of soul searching - points where I asked myself why I believe what I do,
and if it was the Truth, or just a self-delusion, and so on.
The challenge, though, is this.
If the Bible is the Word of God, it should be consistent in all things; correct on all things; without error and without fault... as it was given.
One thing we do run into issues with is the fact that... most of us don't speak ancient Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic. That automatically disqualifies
us from reading "first hand" from the Bible, and introduces a margin of error, which translators are always working to eliminate as much as
So... here's where I stand.
Yes, I have read the Bible through, many, many times. I believe every word of it is God-breathed. I believe that it is without error, without
contradiction and without fault in its original form (that is, in the original languages of the text). I believe the Bible is literal, except where
the text explicitly displays itself to be otherwise...
I also believe that if you look, if you truly seek, you'll come to the same conclusions I have.
You mentioned a few things.
"other books" being one. God's Word is composed entirely of books written by people who had first-hand experience of the events they detailed.
"Other books" do not have that in their favour, and thus were excluded. Good examples of this are the 'Gospel of Thomas', the 'Apocalypse of
Peter', the 'Gospel of Mary' and so on. These gospels are gnostic - gnostic meaning "knowledge", and knowledge most often acquired through
dreams, visions, even drug-induced hallucinations. These books were written anywhere between decades and centuries after the events they describe,
and are neither accurate nor a valid source of history. As mentioned above, the Bible must be consistent and correct on all things. These books are
As for contradictions etc. - I've studied numerous lists of 'contradictions' in Scripture, and never have I found one that is beyond simple,
logical reconciliation. I won't go into great detail on this point, save to stress that the vast majority of perceived 'contradictions' stem from
the inaccuracies of translation, and not from a textual error. This is why it's so important at times to go back to the original languages and read
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