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Originally posted by Mrgone
And just so you understand my position. This isn't a"witch hunt". I'm just curious to know if you've read it all the way through, what religion you are, and what you believe?
Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by Mrgone
People remember the sound bite...
Originally posted by VeniVidi
I have often heard the bible called the "WORD OF GOD", and then hear people criticize that it is inconsistent, false, and full of myth. I have been a Christian since a small child, and was never taught that it was the WORD OF GOD, but rather the INSPIRED WORD OF GOD. God did not write the Bible. It was written by man. The Old Testament was written between 1450 BC and 425 BC.The New Testament was written between 45 AD and 90 AD.. Most people assume that the Apostles wrote the New Testament. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John did not write their version of the events of Christ's life. In facts they were written hundreds of years after their death. The Bible has been through numerous series of translations. There are some differences in the Apostles description of the life of Christ, and those things that occurred during his lifetime. No one has ever claimed different. People claim these differences as an excuse to disregard the teachings of the Bible.
I find this website to be a good history and explanation of the Bible and it being God's Word.
Is the Bible God's Word?
IMO the Bible is a book that was written by Man with God's inspiration. It teaches us that Jesus Christ is our Lord and Savior. It has inspired a religion that has lasted thousands of years, based on 3 years of a Man's life.
Originally posted by Mrgone
reply to post by chr0naut
The "translations" are part of the problem. IMHO. And what would make your interpretation correct?
really, what makes your interpretation of an interpretation correct?
I asked what you believe and why. Based on the bible. Please go into more detail as to why it is correct.
Originally posted by Mrgone
Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by Mrgone
People remember the sound bite...
And as I have witnessed, use the power of these "sound bite's" to interoperate situations to get across a meaning affordable to their agenda.
. . . I'd love to know what you think of it's leaps in logic, inconsistencies . . .
Originally posted by chr0naut
Originally posted by Mrgone
reply to post by chr0naut
The "translations" are part of the problem. IMHO. And what would make your interpretation correct?
really, what makes your interpretation of an interpretation correct?
I asked what you believe and why. Based on the bible. Please go into more detail as to why it is correct.
I didn't say any one interpretation was better than any other, I was, in fact saying that multiple versions are prudent, but not for a beginner.
Firstly, in most cases we have almost original documents in their original language to refer to.
The majority of modern translations refer to these original documents, not to existing translations, so there is no case of interpretations of interpretations happening.
The structure of the Hebrew language is such that word meanings do not change over time as other languages do. Each of the 22 letters in Hebrew is a fully complete concept in itself and words are made up of connected concepts which explain the meaning of the words by the sequence of the letter-concepts they contain. Hebrew is not a "noun" language (names, like in English) but is a "verb" language (actions). As such, to change the meaning of even one letter would cause a cascade of nonsense to propagate outward through all existing words, rendering them as junk. So, in this way, meanings are preserved.
Similarly, the other language used in scripture, Greek, is very tightly 'typed' and widely distributed. I.e: In Greek, there are four words that all describe the English word "love" but with very specific aspects of love, so there can be little or no confusion about the meanings of passages. In Greek, there is deep but non-sexual love (agape), a love between friends (philia), a passionate (usually sexual) love (eros) and a parental love (storge).
Originally posted by AQuestion
Originally posted by Mrgone
Originally posted by AQuestion
reply to post by Mrgone
People remember the sound bite...
And as I have witnessed, use the power of these "sound bite's" to interoperate situations to get across a meaning affordable to their agenda.
Dear Mrgone,
But the bible remains the same. Sure we have to rely on translations; but, how many of us are really willing to learn the ancient languages and is it necessary? Jesus was asked to say which the most important commandment.
Mark 12:28-31. 28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
I believe the bible to be inspired by God and conveyed by man. Paul did not claim nor did the other apostles that God dictated it to them. What they did was send letters to churches that were filled with people who knew them reciting what they had learned and witnessed.
You mentioned that you read the bible as a child once. For 2,000 years it has been questioned and yet it stands up. 2,000 years ago it predicted that it would be spread throughout the world and it has, pretty good guess for a handful of people that were being persecuted and killed; but, they were right. It also said that after being spread throughout the world that the church would see a great falling away and now the church is. Again a pretty good guess for 2,000 years ago. Christianity is the only religion that said it would be spread throughout the world just before it would see many leave it. What are the odds that someone could have predicted that so long ago? A fair question.