The droughts of this past summer...the pain is just about to start, page 3


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reply posted on 23-11-2012 @ 05:01 PM by karen61560
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Because this is above top secret and nothing is just normal here. Every thing that happens is a harbinger of even more disaster to come. Its like dont worry, tomorrow will be worse.


reply posted on 24-11-2012 @ 10:19 PM by Jeremiah65
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Wow, that's like going from the freezer to the fire.

Something I noticed was heavy spring rains in some places that just runs off and causes flash flooding...this was why I thought about the water retention ponds, reservoirs, etc. This would help alleviate the flooding in some places and store water for places that need it. The real problem/cost is an aqueduct/transmission system to get the water from places that had too much to places that don't have enough. I think it can be done in terms of engineering pretty simply...but cost....cost is always an issue. But what is the cost if this cycle continues and we do nothing?


reply posted on 25-11-2012 @ 04:57 AM by AngryCymraeg
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We have the same problem here in the UK. During the drought at the start of the year Wales, Northern England and Scotland had rain, but the rest of the UK didn't. There were calls to pump water from the wet areas to the dry, but that would have meant the water companies spending a lot of money on a system of pipes. Ever since the utility companies were privatised by Maggie, god rot her shrivelled soul, profit has been god and forward planning has been almost non-existent. Of course then the rain started. We've got more coming today - the UK is sodden. Again.


reply posted on 25-11-2012 @ 05:10 AM by Logarock
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Yous guys should plug up Offas Dike and get that thing working again.


reply posted on 25-11-2012 @ 06:02 AM by AngryCymraeg
Originally posted by Logarock
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Yous guys should plug up Offas Dike and get that thing working again.


Oi, we spent years weaking that thing, until the Mercians finally gave up and abandoned it!


reply posted on 25-11-2012 @ 10:31 AM by louczar
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Regarding financial cost, isn't it "amusing" how cost should even factor in creating something that is needful? I swear to God there are people who would light themselves on fire "for just a little bit" if it might possibly increase their bottom line.


Are we the only creatures on this planet with the capability to plan, that collectively just do not use it? We use the behavior of lemmings to jokingly describe the blind to consequences behavior of others. Jokes on us though, as our entire species can collaborate to avoid the cliff but would rather try to make a cushion of the others to avoid the splat at the end of our fall.

Why take the plunge to begin with? Well, there's something about some big stones in Georgia, and the number 500 million, hey?


reply posted on 25-11-2012 @ 08:13 PM by Jeremiah65
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As sad as it is, cost is always why we no longer do the "civil" projects we used to do. We used to do all kinds of things and oddly enough, back then there was money to do it...people worked, they paid their taxes and that paid for the Tennessee Valley projects, Hoover damn...you name it.

Now, we might be facing a long term problem and I guarantee you that if it were to come up in a BIll to Congress that the drought was going to continue for another 5 years and something must be done to preserve the farmlands...they would say we can't afford it...then turn around a cut a check to a foreign country for billions of dollars. Absolute madness.


reply posted on 26-11-2012 @ 07:31 AM by Jeremiah65
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It's not a long term forecast, but this one from NOAA predicts persistent conditions at least through February of 2013. I'll look to see if I can find any thing further out.

NOAA drought forecast



reply posted on 26-11-2012 @ 08:16 AM by Logarock
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
Originally posted by Logarock
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post by AngryCymraeg

Yous guys should plug up Offas Dike and get that thing working again.


Oi, we spent years weaking that thing, until the Mercians finally gave up and abandoned it!





reply posted on 26-11-2012 @ 08:20 AM by crappiekat
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Thank you for the link.

Off to work. Will give it a better look when I get back.



reply posted on 13-12-2012 @ 10:50 AM by Ellie Sagan
I just found this news... www.reuters.com...


* Drought expands in Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas * Winter wheat crop worries persist * More than 42 percent of continguous U.S. in severe drought


Roughly 63 percent of the new winter wheat crop that U.S. farmers planted in the fall is in drought-hit areas, with the hard red winter wheat belt - especially from South Dakota to Texas - remaining deeply entrenched in drought, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Extreme temperature fluctuations from warmer-than-normal to freezing conditions have stressed the crop, which already was in poor shape due to lack of moisture.


I'm not panicking, but I am growing more concerned.
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