The droughts of this past summer...the pain is just about to start, page 1


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Topic started on 21-11-2012 @ 04:54 PM by Jeremiah65
I think it is kinda odd that no one really talks about the droughts we had this summer...the damage didn't suddenly heal itself...

We had the "election" and now we have the "Gaza" thing and people are easily distracted. Let's see how distracted they are in February and March when certain things will either just not be available or will cost twice as much as it did.

The problem with beef...and they warned us months ago...farmers were bringing their herds to slaughter because they couldn't afford to feed them or water them. This caused a surge of available meat at the stores and markets so prices have stayed pretty much flat. It is not going to be that way in deep winter and into the spring. Expect chicken and pork to rise as well.







Better stock up dried soup beans! Least you'll get some protein to go with your rice and potatoes. BTW...peanut butter is also expected to have a jump n prices. Friend of mine works at a big super market grocer and his boss told him to buy in lots of peanut butter now cause the prices were going to go up. I am not a prophet here, but I would recommend getting some meat in the freezer and alternative protein sources in your cabinets. I think the Holidays are going to be the start of it.

The drought didn't go away...it's just that most of us have ADD and can't pay attention on a subject more than a couple of minutes if it is not thrust in our face constantly. Prepare yourself for more expensive food.

The effects haven't even really started yet...but I bet people are going to see prices going up from now through Christmas and then get really bad when the warehouses start thinning down.


reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 05:40 PM by FissionSurplus
reply to post by jssaylor2007



I've only lived out here in west Texas for about two years now, and it's been ridiculously dry, according to my husband, who is in his 50s and was born and raised out here.

I have noticed that my favorite local market, which has always had excellent prices on meat, especially beef, is now selling meat at much higher prices. I was getting spoiled for a while, getting lucious T-bone and ribeye steaks cheaply. It makes sense, as the ranchers were dumping their beef on the market, as they couldn't afford to feed them. Everything is going up in price now.

I have been buying food for over a year now, storing up canned meats, beans, etc., because I could see it coming. Now the prices are starting to reflect my fears.


reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 05:48 PM by Iwinder
I am not in Texas but reside in Ontario.....Lake Huron is at a near record low as far as the records go......
Link below
www.theobserver.ca...


This is a huge deal as it is not only in Cattle country but also in the worlds largest reserve of fresh water.

Serious times it is.

Regards iwinder


reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 06:26 PM by Jeremiah65
reply to post by Dalrie



The Ogallala Aquifer is definitely getting hit hard in the plains and has been for years. I wonder if they actually know how much water is left down there. We were always told in schools that it was an underground ocean of freshwater but I have seen reports that scientist say the rate of use and consumption is completely unsustainable as well.

You mentioned corn and that is the crop that is going to hit everything. It feeds the cattle, pigs and chickens, it's in baked goods, it's a sweetner in all kinds of things...That is going to be the invisible shooter. Most people don't realize how bad the corn crops actually were and just how much we use it in all sorts of things that we take for granted.


reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 08:04 PM by taws6
reply to post by Jeremiah65



It's funny that you made this post right now, because I just came back form shoprite and realized the that prices of steak have really went up, around 50% higher than they were last year at this time. The thing is, the portions have gotten a lot smaller, so it looks like the prices have stayed the same, but the per pound price really went up. I was trying to get a piece of steak for dinner tonight and had a hard time finding one that was over a pound, they are just making them smaller now. Anyway, I ended up paying $9.99 per pound and I paid $5.99 last year for the same cut.


reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 08:11 PM by Jeremiah65
reply to post by taws6



Yeah I have noticed the smaller packaging and portions as well. On one hand....we prob should eat smaller portions...but you are correct...the prices are the same or slightly higher for a package of "less" product.

I guess this is how they cleverly sneak in raising costs without causing a public flare up. I also noticed certain breakfast cereals seemed to have the same size box but a lower content weight. The bacon I used to buy was always 1 pound packages, now the same company is 12 oz packages. 4 ounces isn't going to starve anyone but it's just something I noticed.



reply posted on 22-11-2012 @ 07:55 AM by Jeremiah65
Thanks for the input so far.

I think alot of folks (as said above) didn't see immediate impacts and now the MSM doesn't even talk about it so they say "no big deal...nothing to worry about".

Yes big swaths of the midwest are still in drought conditions. You also have to look at long term rainfall amounts as it is over the long term that ground water is replenished. If you are having consistent rainfall deficits month after month and year after year...your groundwater is not recovering very quickly...if at all.

I know there are some people that do not believe in "man made global warming" and others do. I never participate in these arguments because they are pointless. I do insist we are experiencing climate change though...regardless of the cause. Natural or man made doesn't really matter. We can prepare for it with reservoirs and aqueducts and other precautions...or we can say "there is nothing to worry about"...and when the food prices soar and the midwest becomes a near desert those same people will be whining "why is the food prices so high and why is there so little of it?"

IF we make new lakes, reservoirs, water retention ponds and the means to deliver the water...what is the worst that can happen if this is a short term problem? We end up with new lakes and reservoirs...not a disaster...if we don't do anything and it is going to be a long term cycle...we will have serious problems and then it will be too late.

Eventually, fresh water is going to be a new commodity that will probably be traded like oil and gold. I saw a show not long ago where this group of guys were predicting the next world crisis...nuclear terrorists, financial collapse, super, thinking computers and robots, peak oil...etc...but the one they all agreed upon was clean, fresh water. We have poisoned alot of our water beyond use...and they agreed that not that far off, we will prob see wars fought over water.
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