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reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 11:44 AM by maes2
reply to post by dontreally


good. you explored it finally. Gaza , Lebanon, Syria, Sudan and Iran ! so then when all of them shut their mouths then others will give in and so Israel (or it's allies) can rule over the middle east and they can rule over the world by that !



reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 11:50 AM by dontreally
reply to post by DarthMuerte



They're building 3 more at 50 million apiece; it only needs a "few months" time to fully defend Israel's skies.

Link

Although I agree that it performed extremely well. It intercepted 300 + incoming missiles. A 90% success rate.


reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 11:54 AM by sonnny1
reply to post by dontreally



Hamas is still a deadly organization. They still can get weapons/missiles. You also have to take under consideration, ALL the Arab states that might turn on Israel, if they decide to strike Iran.

We will see though.


reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 12:18 PM by dontreally
reply to post by sonnny1



Israel is more likely threatened by terrorist organization Hezbollah and Hamas. Egypt, etc, I'm not worried about them. I feel they will keep out when Israel attacks Iran. Whereas Hezbollah and Hamas are outside the diplomatic conversation, operate from their own rules, serving as proxy for those interests (in the case of Egypt, there's Hamas) who can't enter conflict without incurring condemnation.

After all, Egypt is still required by international law to honor the camp david treaty with Israel.

As for Hamas re-arming. That's a possibility. But since Israel has managed to secure a cease-fire that doesn't include 'loosening' the blockade on Gaza, it will be a good year or so before Hamas manages to rebuild important facilities and rearm themselves. And I imagine Israel will attack Iran before that happens.


reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 12:28 PM by dontreally
reply to post by MDDoxs



There's no contradiction.

Israel is a victim of Hamas terrorism. Hamas has shot 12,000 rockets at Israel in the last 10 years. Before the recent operation, Hamas had shot over 700 missiles at Israeli towns since the start of 2012.

This recent operation was justified by the continuance of Hamas' terrorism. Israel has been extremely reserved in their responses, given most nations would simply not tolerate this sort of terrorism against their populations.

That doesn't mean there couldn't have been a long-term strategy which simply anticipated a situation that would exist when Israel attacks Iran's nuclear facilities; by disabling Hamas, they've somewhat freed themselves from the additional concern of having to deal with a stronger southern front.

When Israel attacks Iran, Israel knows their biggest problem will come from a fusillade of Shahab 3's from Iran and missile attacks from Hezbollah.

Israel had every right to take out Hamas' missile capabilities.



reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 02:19 PM by OperationIraqiFailure
Originally posted by dontreally
reply to
post by MDDoxs



There's no contradiction.

Israel is a victim of Hamas terrorism. Hamas has shot 12,000 rockets at Israel in the last 10 years. Before the recent operation, Hamas had shot over 700 missiles at Israeli towns since the start of 2012.

This recent operation was justified by the continuance of Hamas' terrorism. Israel has been extremely reserved in their responses, given most nations would simply not tolerate this sort of terrorism against their populations.

That doesn't mean there couldn't have been a long-term strategy which simply anticipated a situation that would exist when Israel attacks Iran's nuclear facilities; by disabling Hamas, they've somewhat freed themselves from the additional concern of having to deal with a stronger southern front.

When Israel attacks Iran, Israel knows their biggest problem will come from a fusillade of Shahab 3's from Iran and missile attacks from Hezbollah.

Israel had every right to take out Hamas' missile capabilities.


I guess my post goes unanswered then.

Israel.....fired.....first.

My proof?! Of course:

Israel fired first
Notice, the first report on the bottom of the live update is dated "Nov. 14th."

That's truth, staring you in the face, dontreally. I would love to hear your rebuttal, sir.

Lima-1, out.


reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 03:28 PM by Shuye
Originally posted by OperationIraqiFailure
I guess my post goes unanswered then.

Israel.....fired.....first.



My proof?! Of course:

Israel fired first
Notice, the first report on the bottom of the live update is dated

"Nov. 14th."



That's truth, staring you in the face, dontreally. I would love to hear your rebuttal, sir.

Lima-1, out.


If you insist, i'm sure you wouldn't mind i'm taking it from here (mind the dates):

Link 1 - Hamas commits war crimes, launching 600 rocket attacks on Israeli civilians: Where's the UN condemnation? (November 6, 2012)
Link 2 - Abbas: No justification for Gaza rocket attacks (November 11, 2012)
Link 3 - Under attack: 100 rockets fired on Israel in last three days (November 12, 2012)
Link 4 - Rocket salvo sparks Israeli warning to Hamas of Gaza offensive (November 13, 2012)

Should I provide more links? Or is it enough for you?


reply posted on 21-11-2012 @ 04:09 PM by maes2
look at this:Israel knew that Hmmas had Fajr 5 which reaches Telaviv even years ago !
www.spacewar.com...
so I consider that Israel strategy is based on an illusion that they have a magical dome ! any dome has it's own holes anyway !! and I can confess that Israel military has done something wrong based on weak predictions !!!

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