posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 04:15 PM
Originally posted by SmedleyBurlap
Harper is neither an idiot nor a sellout.
Rather than release assessments and analyses of the treaty, the government has limited Canadians to about five weeks' notice of the treaty text with
little opportunity for scrutiny and debate. If the government were serious about making a well-informed decision, it could, for example, establish an
independent commission to study and report publicly on the costs and benefits of the treaty for Canadians. We're talkin about 5 weeks to review a
decision that will last for 31 years. He's prorogued Parliament to hold onto power when the other parties were about to hold him in contempt of
Government, renamed the gov. of Canada to "The Harper Government", the "RoboCall" scandal was traced back to his party when he won a 2nd
election.... He's not a sellout or an idiot; he's a thief, a power hungry liar who's only concern is his own legacy.
Chinese state companies will invest in building mammoth infrastructure projects in Canada, that meet Canadian safety and industry regulations. China
will rapidly develop what would take Canadians generations to build on their own. At the end of the 31-year deal, it all defaults back to Canadian
We don't know that. What we know is that China will be the Capital investor; they may build infrastructure, they may not. That remains to be seen.
What we DO know is they will be injecting massive amounts of capital into Canada. Think back to the quote "Give me control over a nations currency,
and I care not who makes it's laws." ; the same applies here. Though instead of "Controlling the currency of Canada", China will control the Flow
of credit and capital investment. IMO, Why would the chinese government invest so heavily in infrastructure in Canada only to have it leave it's
hands after? China's own infrastructure needs development; this deal is more about aquisition of resources and investment capital in China-owned
businesses in Canada. It will hamper the ability of Canadian governments to ensure that benefits of resource extraction in Canada accrue reasonably
to Canadians. On the other hand, China will retain a wider range of policy tools to discriminate in favour of its own companies in China.
The Canadian supreme court will still hold sway over decisions on China-Canada trade. Harper is shrewd and will find a way to use the SC to his
advantage, when necessary. These concessions to China are temporary, they are for the short-term, and are meant to fuel his greater plans for this
country because American capital and politicians will not help him. China has to be appeased in order to accept this deal.
They may hold "Sway"; but when it comes to democratically authorized decisions made by the Canadian people, The Supreme Court of Canada should have
, not"sway"; the word of our Supreme Court is law, but not under this treaty. These concessions are NOT temporary, and will be in
effect for 31 years, without any future court or government being able to change anything without the consent and approval from China. Disrupting our
The only real way for the Chinese to enforce their control of these projects against Canadian government decisions is by projecting military
might and/or freezing Canadian economic activity in China. Neither of these options really help China.
Completely and utterly wrong. China can enforce their control of these projects via Closed door arbitration, which as mentioned above, challenges
democratically authorized decisions. The arbitration mechanisms under these treaties enrich lawyers and arbitrators, but there is little evidence that
they can protect Canadian business in a meaningful way against a major player like the Chinese government, especially when China has retained the
right to continue to discriminate in favour of its own companies. Under the treaty, both Canada and China can keep their existing laws and practices
that discriminate in favour of their domestic companies, and these existing laws and practices are then locked in. Because China has more
discriminatory laws and practices than Canada, the only thing being frozen, is an unlevel playing field in China and a relatively level one in Canada.