Originally posted by dr treg
I think that aiming hatred against a new invasive culture is natural until that new culture adapts and integrates into it`s new geographical area
slowly over many decades in a non numerically explosive manner.
Excuse me? Natural? No. It would be if we really were nothing more than apes, barely past the stage of flinging scat at one another from one tree to
the next, but that is a view that only a total simpleton can hold to. The fact of the matter is, that we are reasoning beings who have the chance to
learn from our past mistakes. While being utterly aware of the REAL dangers out there, and being prepared to deal with those, we CANNOT allow
ourselves to repeat the mistakes of the past, and allow hate to ever, EVER be excused.
My Grandfathers fought for better than that. If they thought for one single solitary second that people today were as bigtoted as the Nazi filth they
risked life and limb to destroy, I dread to think what a poor state they would be in. I think it is called inchoate rage would probably say it
Muslims in the UK over the past 20 years have walked over these recommendations and the indiginous English were told by politicians to accept what for
them is cheap labor.
Then the problem is not the Muslims, but the government, for it is they who decide how our borders are protected, and our population managed, and how
the enforcement of our border controls is actually achieved. And another thing...why are you being religiously specific about these things? We also
have many non Muslims comming here expressly to work, from all over Europe, from all over the world, and from EVERY religious background, in vast
That is why you have to travel far away fron cities in England to find England as she was 20 years ago.
You sound like another politician who does not care a jot for the indiginous population and need cheap votes/labor.
First of all, yes, you have to travel an awful long way out of town to find a comfortable slice of Englishness these days. That has rather less to do
with the religious demographic in cities, and rather more I think, to do with the fact that all the development that government/parliaments have done
over the last few decades , has erroded our sense of culture, by selling off services to private companies, by getting rid of libraries, by allowing
the slow collapse of the post office etc etc.
And another thing. THERE IS NO BLOODY INDIGENOUS ENGLISHMAN ALIVE! Since the Romans, and every other invader came here, our indigenous national roots
have had other branches, that have nothing to do with our celtic pagan roots what so ever. So that point is right out the bloody window.
One more point. Although our history contains slavery, there is also reference in our history to periods where great numbers of people of various
religions and colours ended up here, not through slavery but through migration for what ever reason. Until the slave trade began in earnest, and even
DURING that period, there were people who came here to live, and were accepted and loved as human beings, regardless of thier beliefs and skin tone,
and it makes me sick to my guts that now, even after the brainwashing that allowed the slave trade to take root here in the mid fifteen hundreds, has
well and truely had the time to wear off, that we are still so bloody territorial about our nation.
This used to be a place that a man could be proud of. Not because every face you saw was the same colour, and not because every place of worship was
a Chrisitan church, and not because our cultural identity was dominant. It used to be a place to be proud of because when you go back in history far
enough, it was a place where all men were equal under the law at birth, no matter wether that birth was here, or elsewhere in the world, and no matter
which god they were born under.
I have no interest in cheap labour. I believe that labour should be bloody expensive, and that every single person who works a shop floor, or builds
and manufactures things in this country, and every street sweeper, bin man, plumber and plasterer is worth a thousand time what a politician or a city
suit is worth. But I place the same worth on every human being, no matter where he is from, or what he believes. Generalising, lumping all peoples of
a belief or creed together, or doing so for reason of skin tone, are a)exactly the same as one another, racism, and b) are not things to which Britons
of ancient times held to, until the bloody slave traders warped people into accepting it as a notion.
By the way... If you want to complain about the plight of the so called indigenous population of Britain, then learn to spell the word indigenous
first. Adds gravitas to your argument.