posted on Nov, 20 2012 @ 05:38 PM
Just to help with your history.
Originally posted by Gooseygander
In the 1800s England tried to exterminate the Irish through Cromwell, they tried to starve them to death and did a good job. The famine the English
created killed or expatriated millions of Irish
Cromwell did not try to exterminate the Irish and was not around in the 1800’s. Just like all of history in the 1600’s it was about conquest and
this was played out across the European continent myriad times. To be simplistic, it was Catholic versus Protestant and in Ireland and was an
extension of the English Civil War where the Irish Catholics had supported the Royalists. Had the Spanish Catholics successfully invaded England a
few decades earlier history would have been different.
The “English created” famine is stretching the truth somewhat. Sure, the British were in control at the time but a number of factors came into
play, not least the dependence on potatoes which failed due to potato blight, although recognising that Irish Catholics were treated as second class
Comparison with Israel. Give it a rest. Northern Ireland was partitioned in 1921 so that Catholic Ireland could get their independence from the UK
whilst allowing the part which actually wanted to remain part of the UK to stay. The Catholic inspired Troubles just brought violence and mayhem to
Ireland, now thankfully ended allowing both parts of Ireland to live in peace and to develop in their own ways.
The only comparison with Israel is that there are two religious divides. While I abhor some aspects of Israeli policies, I also abhor the way Israel
is treated in the Middle East and across the Muslim world and especially the way it is targeted by proxy groups like Hamas. Hamas are content to lob
rockets into Israel (with aid from Iran and Syria et al) and then cry foul when Israel kick back; but of course that’s what they want – the
perpetuation of hatred and violence. I hate groups like Hamas who target civilians without conscious, just like the IRA, as I am sure you do.