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Originally posted by BASSPLYR
I think the soviets invented a limited use assault rifle that shot darts or needles. Could even work under water but it had only a few rounds in the magazine and was a pain in the ass to use, work on etc...
A frangible load to the head will probably knock the guy out instantly. Dispatch them how you want after that.
Originally posted by Orwells Ghost
The De Lisle carbine from WWII was a Lee Enfield action modified to fire a subsonic .45 cartridge with an effective range of 200 yards. It possessed an integral suppressor and is reputed to be one of the quietest firearms ever produced. It was created over sixty years ago using "off the shelf" parts, the calibre and action used both being over a century old. It sounds like someone at the Pentagon is looking for a way to justify their budget...edit on 20-11-2012 by Orwells Ghost because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by Bilky
No, I mean frangible. A hollow point deforms on impact, but remains largely intact. A frangible bullet "shatters" for lack of a better word, and doesn't remain intact by any stretch of the imagination. If you were shot by a hollow point, they could pull the bullet out of you, and do a forensic analysis on it. If you were shot by a frangible bullet, they'd find tiny pieces of bullet in you that could never be reassembled into something even remotely resembling a bullet.
Originally posted by stirling
45 Cal Colt autopistol ammo can be downloaded to a subsonic round as it travels at only 8 or 900 fps and sub sonic is under 700......
The 230 grain bullet has enough weight to do the job even at such slow velocity i believe....
Of course you need a silencer to shoot through as well.......
I think this is WW2 stuff though......surely they have perfected things by now....
(i am thinking of silenced submachine guns the SAS etc seem to favour....they are 9mm luger cal)MP5s.edit on 20-11-2012 by stirling because: (no reason given)