reply to post by samcrow
Conspiracy or no conspiracy... those people who were in that theater are f#cking dead, man, and for what? This is like a minor September 11 all over
again, except this time there's no obvious motive. 9/11's motives were just as senseless, of course - but at least there was underlying order to the
chaos. This is just pure chaos. Innocent people died for no good reason - unless you believe this slaughter is related to gun-control, which it very
possibly could be. Our internationally-compromised governments are well-known to commit far
worse atrocities both domestically & abroad just in
order to further considerably less sinister agendas... or, more often than not - merely to maintain their eternal and unchallenged vice-grip
stranglehold on the Control and Profit infrastructure of our corrupt and 'zombified' Great Society. We are not sheep anymore. Sheep are innocent. We
are cannibalistic mongrels, some of us are more dangerous than others, but we all have blood on our hands in one way or another, and none of us are
bothered by that too much. Which is strange, because in most Courts of Law, if our leaders were slapped with a felony murder - no, genocide - charge -
we would all
be held accountable as accomplices to their crimes due to our complete and utter failure to make any attempt to stop them or even
adequately challenge them.
Our culture, our habits, our trends, our fashion, our technology, our beliefs, our Wars
..... sh#t, they decide our entire species'
And you call this Free Democracy? We don't even vote for these swine! And we sure as hell can't kick them out! Only the President
can do that - and he's as beholden to Them as We are. Hell, 99% of Earth don't even know the first names of the people who pull the strings of the War
Machine - and you can be very sure - they
are the Boss around here. Not Bush, not Obama, not Romney... not even God. Evil men run this show
now. Evil men have run this show for over 2000 years, but now they're so precisely organized and deadly that the only thing that can stop them now is
- all of us.
What will it take to get through to people, to make them see that nothing is coincidence - and even if it is
, you can be sure that
is exploiting it for everything it's worth! Blah! What madness! Some people don't believe in secret societies or Elite groups etc., and
frankly, I don't care. To me it doesn't make a difference whether or not our decline is being systematically-engineered or not. The outcome is still
the same, and it's not good any way you cut it.
Indeed, life is cheap these days... or at least, cheaper than usual. And war is Gold... Peace doesn't even rank as remotely valuable. Not from the
Military-Industrial Conglomerate's point of view, which is far different from our own, or any other animal's for that matter.. and, like it or not,
the Military-Industrial Complex does
exist, for certain, and it's every bit as powerful and as dangerous as the worst Illuminati or Zionist or
Alien or Whatever cult you can dream of - even if no single party is at the helm (which I personally find is unlikely)... But ultimately, that is all
irrelevant, because the most alarming part of all is: things continue to worsen and worsen
every day all over the world while we each sit on
our computers and talk a bunch of self-righteous stagnant nonsense at each other, ultimately doing nothing
What the f#ck is going on around here? Why the hell are people doing this crazy sh#t? That's what we should be asking humanity. Why aren't more people
asking the Big Questions like that - WHY?, not
WHO? Why aren't we addressing these issues at their core
? You can put a band-aid
on a broken spine, but you're only going to look stupid, and you're still going to be paralyzed. Our approach to subjects like these is appalling. The
conversation quickly degenerates into "who's to blame". Wake up, you idiots! You're
to blame! And so am I! We all are. We perpetuate this
poisonous culture. Even if we choose not to participate in it and do nothing else.
"If you are neutral on situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor." - Desmond Tutu
The core of these issues which I speak of can all be thrown under the term the "Human Condition" - which is, in a layman's nutshell; all of our
inexcusable and irresponsible shortcomings both morally and
intellectually, separate and irrespective of our personal belief structures which
we have developed for our own selves over our time spent in this cesspool of weird and dark primal behavior in a vein attempt to comfort ourselves.
And our moralistic shortcomings should especially be addressed while disregarding our religions... the same "spiritual" institutions which have
generally been primarily responsible for dictating our rather illogical and often impracticable morals and petty differences in the past - petty
differences which lead to Wars.
And our god-damned intellectualism is being squandered by gimmicks and shallow distractions which are continually forced upon us in a relentless
torrent of consumerist advertising to the extent where you cannot
escape the Constant Temptation without going a little crazy. We always want
more, more, more!
- we don't care how we get it or who suffers in our wake, we just act on instinct like good little consumers should, and
it's like swimming against the current just to fight this programmed urge. The human mind needs to be nourished, but there's no nourishment to be
found here in this fast-food world. Not unless you already know where to look - and the Youth don't! You know how older generations grow apart from
the younger generations, and they never have a clue how that happened because they always thought they'd be "hip" enough to understand what the
younger people are going through? This is how it happens. I'm 22 years old and I can't even f#cking talk to an 18 year old without feeling like I'm on
another planet. People just don't care about anything anymore - the planet's future, their own future, their friend's future, their family's future -
they just wanna get loaded while the good times are here, and while that's all well and good, it's killing our planet with a toxic cloud of
Don't get me wrong when I talk about culture in this manner like I'm trying to be cool. I'm as normal as anyone else on here, I assume. Just another
dude pissed off with the world trying to make his way through it. I'm not a "non-conformist" for the sake of being "different" or "cool". I'm a
non-conformist because conformism is death of the human spirit. I recognize good and honest works of art and fashion when I see them. I don't need a
magazine or a radio station to tell me what I'm into this season. But Culture itself is not bad. There is such thing as 'good' Culture... but
"fashionable" Culture - this constant shallow flux of accessory-ridden superfluous bullsh#t which we idiots in the modern age pass off
'culture', is. We don't have a culture anymore. We're aimless wanderers, every one of us, with no idea where we're going or how to get there, and
we're all just along for the ride while we get our kicks and forget about how f#cked we are...
...and you're a downright idiot
if you think that this blind method of contentious over-indulgent living on a finite environment like ours is
harmless. Why must we promote decadance so enthusiastically? Are coins worth so much to us that we would compromise our humanity just to make a quick
buck off gullible and exploitable people?... all the money in the world can't buy you peace and happiness when the sh#t
hits the fan and we start running out of stuff... will it happen in our lifetime? Who knows? But it'll happen in
lifetime if we
don't stand up for ourselves and prevent it - and that should be motivating enough unless your basic
human principles have already been compromised. It is a sick and unworthy person indeed who does not care about their children or grandchildren's
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." - Edmund Burke
Morals and empathy and compassion and love are all intrinsic values systems which are inherent in all
of us from birth and inbuilt into nature
nature (or God or whatever the hell you wish to call "it")... hence why all
animals have this natural
moralistic instinct - to
protect the ones they love
, to feed their families, to share with their friends etc. Humans can expand on these emotions in any way we want,
but at their core experience, they are the same as any dog or cat or bird or fish that ever experienced a moralistic reaction. We are the only animal
who blatantly and remorselessly beats that inbuilt moral compass out of ourselves with bad parenting techniques, bad education techniques, a horribly
unhealthy approach to human competitiveness and "success" (whatever that means) that we each learn as small children from the contagious and failed
examples that came before us - be them our parents, role models, or just people we grow up in the vicinity of. Children soak up information good or
bad - and there's an abundance of bad information out there and we're doing very little about promoting the good. This will catch up with us very
It is ridiculous to propose that bullies are born
bullies, despite what people like Dr. Phil might say on the Television. Sure, some people are
born more difficult to deal with than others, but that's the nature of diversity, and meeting that difficulty with intolerance and authoritarianism
results in rebellious behavior. I believe rebellious behavior for the right reasons
is our god damned duty
as sentient beings. Question
EVERYTHING! That's why you've got a brain like you do - so you can bloody-well use it. But the "rebels" of today are unhealthy
lack focus and direction - they're angry, but they don't know what about. And that is a dangerous and volatile energy that should be dealt with
carefully by all parties... we employ bad entertainment and escapism techniques (or rather, turn a blind eye to them - for the most part)... and our
worst Sin of all... we lead the naive and impressionable Youth that follow in our jaded footsteps into the very same bad direction
ancestors have been trying to warn us about in all cultures and societies for f#cking centuries
We gobble up all this ridiculous political rhetoric that ALL OUR POLITICIANS spew out of their mouths, we know it's lies and gibberish, but we beg for
more! Our intentional, unfathomably
insane and suicidal continuation of ancient
) paranoid religious dogma
is killing our Souls instead of setting them free... Our horrible lifestyle choices that every single one of us
are guilty of and participate
in, including myself, of course - from drugs and alcohol, to fast food and poisonous consumerism/materialism that leads to completely unsustainable
waste, to all the other copious subgenres of the 'Human Condition'...
And finally, and especially
... our blatant and unrepentant disregard for anything
but ourselves in all aspects of our communal
existence. There's no respect left on this morally-bankrupt rock of ours, when there should be all means be an overabundance of it. There's plenty to
go around, and plenty of purpose to be found, but we're content in wallowing in our own self-pity and self-loathing until the sky falls on us one day
- which we all
agree will happen eventually - some of us believe it will happen sooner rather than later, and others think that it's not their
problem to worry about and go about their daily lives in a decadent haze... Jesus
, man... sometimes I wanna take up a gun and start shooting at
everything! Of course I won't do it, because it's not their
fault. It's not the individual's
fault, per se, besides our general
self-induced fog of apathy and nihilistic complacency - but if the world can drive a rational mind to the brink of insane frustration... then what
effect is it having on the more sensitive minds of the planet?
I had a pretty crappy upbringing, nothing to complain about, but nothing to be happy about either. My parents were great - but my environment wasn't.
Bullying, religious superiority, a general sense of not belonging... god damnit, man, sometimes I read these articles and these events unfolding
around the planet and I wonder what f#
I've seen drug-addicted parents do a better job at raising their kids than money-addicted greedy slimeballs who have no time for their family! When
did we become so hell-bent on self-destruction in exchange for ridiculous trinkets and shiny rubbish? Greed and selfishness is what's causing this
crazy bullsh#t. All other issues stem from those two flaws.
I haven't lost hope, and I'm not a gambler, but if this were a betting game... I wouldn't put any of my chips on us to come out of this global social
mess peacefully and intact. We are a race of dumb animals now, if we were ever anything else to begin with... and we're completely shallow and
desensitized to the preventable suffering that takes place before our very god damned eyes every day of every week, everywhere we go... does
care about anything
All this beating around the bush is a fruitless fear campaign. There's gotta be some form of explanation for this rapid escalation of random outbursts
of brutal violence against strangers... it's not normal behavior for any
animal let alone a human being, crazy or otherwise, no matter what the
eugenicists and fascist powermongers who call the shots tell you on the television.
Indeed. Mark my words all you skeptics and fools: these horrors are just symptoms of a much greater problem than one individual's "failure to
assimilate", or "self-esteem deficiencies"... These pychiatrist explanations and police state rhetoric are all just rude cop-outs... cheap and weak
excuses designed to avert attention from the ones who are really
responsible for this chaos, be it intentional or otherwise. We live in a sick
society run by sick people. Is it any surprise that society is beginning to behave in a sickly manner?
It's no raw coincidence that our culture and social institutions are wavering under the pressure of natural human progress at the same time as these
unexplainable atrocities against humanity. I say 'natural' human progress as opposed to 'unnatural human progress' - aka "population control". Just
because the various power structures of the world were exposed in the 20th century for operations like
does not mean the fascist psychopaths just 'gave up' on their nutcase plans for our
planet. The world is out of control, and people are following suit... This is not natural human behavior by any standard, and it's not just happening
in isolated places... You can't blame all
instances of unanticipated psychotic behavior on bath salts, 'bad' '___' and socialists. I suppose
you can try, but you'll look (and sound) like an idiot.
I'm admittedly prone to outlandish ideas and theories, but I'm stumped on this one. I have no wisdom to offer. If he was set up or brainwashed...
that's f#cked. And if he wasn't, it's still f#cked! Either way, something's gotta give, and conspiracy or no conspiracy, society is becoming sicker by
the day and this crap is only gonna get worse until we degenerate into barbaric violence or do
something about these swine who are corrupting
the world with evil. And no, I'm not talking about video games or movies or any stupid nonsense like that... I'm talking about the System we live in
which perpetuates violence and instability among human beings. We can't live like this for much longer, no matter how far you bury your head in the
The problems we're faced with are many, and the solutions aren't simple. It's gonna take a group effort to repair the Human Condition... and no one
wants to commit themselves to any real strategy for Change. And I'm talking about differential change, not Obama Change. We all know how differential
Obama's Change was (and continues to be not). And yes, I hate Romney too, for the record, not that anyone cares since I'm Australian...
How long, O Lord? How f#cking long...
Sorry for the long post, I don't care if no body reads it. TL;DR: we're all f#cked and it's our fault. What are we gonna do about it? Give up? We gave
up a long
time ago... and we should be ashamed of ourselves for doing so. We only deserve out of life what we're willing to put back into it.
And we give back nothing.
I'm not a cynical person - but I'm not under any false illusions, either. Our fate rests in our
hands - and
our hands are full of blood money, cigarettes and cheap gimmicks... and our fate is rapidly falling out
our hands now, but we don't wanna drop
all our crap in order to catch it. That's unforgivable, humanity. Have we no shame?
Peace be with you, ATS and the free world. You're gonna need it more than ever soon enough.
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