Israel Would Not Think Twice About Using Nuclear Weapons If Invaded

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posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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When Israel last launched prolonged airstrikes into Gaza in 2008-09, Israel had an ally in Egypt, which served to protect them from intervention from other nations.

Egypt acted as a block to stop nations such as Iran or Syria from attacking Israel. Since the Muslim Brotherhood came to power, this alliance has ended and Israel is completely isolated.

Many on ATS have been aware of this agenda for some time, seeing it being reported in the MSM months later just verifies the path we are on. The very reason I joined this forum was to question why the west allowed Mubarak to fall. It didn't take long to realise that allowing the Muslim Brotherhood into Egypt was to serve as isolating Israel.

Israel, courtesy of America and other western nations is the strongest military power in the middle east, certainly the most advanced. With the Zionist influence in many countries, they have even managed to acquire nuclear weapons.

This is the pretext for WW3- Iran and Syria are already opposed to Israel and they already fund terrorist organisations such as Hamas to attack Israel. They haven't been able to openly attack Israel because of Egypt- but Egypt is now on their side under the Muslim Brotherhood.

If the Muslim nations now surrounding Israel decide enough is enough and try and intervene to stop Israel salughtering the Palestinian people (there is talk of Israel sending ground forces into Gaza) then Israel will not think twice of using nuclear weapons to 'defend herself'.

If she is prepared to react to Hamas rockets with airstrikes and drone strikes against an incredibly densely populated area such as Gaza, then if the Syrian, Iranian or Egyptian military got involved in Gaza, then Israel would not think twice about using nukes.

www.haaretz.com...



Media outlets around the world have reported that state archive documents declassified this week showed that Israel's leadership considered using "drastic means" during the 1973 Yom Kippur War.

On October 9, a day after Egypt repulsed Israel's counterattack on the southern front, prime minister Golda Meir convened a top-level discussion in her office.

The outlook was grim. Troop losses were high, and ammunition and weapons stores were running out. At one point, Meir blurted out that she had a "crazy idea."



en.wikipedia.org...



On October 8, 1973 just after the start of the Yom Kippur War, Golda Meir and her closest aides decided to put eight nuclear armed F-4s at Tel Nof Airbase on 24 hour alert and as many nuclear missile launchers at Sedot Mikha Airbase operational as possible. Seymour Hersh adds that the initial target list that night "included the Egyptian and Syrian military headquarters near Cairo and Damascus".


en.wikipedia.org...



The Samson Option is Israel's alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well.[1] The phrase also has been used more generally to describe Israel's nuclear program.




Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,
And it will be a ruinous heap.”
- The Prophet Isaiah, chapter 17, verse 1




posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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Israel Would think twice about using nuclear weapons,what goes around comes around in this part of the world...



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 10:12 AM
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Yes they would. Any nation that uses a nuclear weapon it simply over, full stop. nuclear weapons are not taken lightly.

Just think that person who pushes that big red button knows as soon as you push it, everything is over.



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012


Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,
And it will be a ruinous heap.”
- The Prophet Isaiah, chapter 17, verse 1



Note: there is no 'after death' or radiation that continues to kill all life thereafter.

Hence America will use its M.O.A.B on Damascus.

M.O.A.B = Mother of all Bombs. The biggest conventional bomb ever made to date.
en.wikipedia.org...:MOAB_bomb.jpg

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Note: Syria is also located north of what used to be called the Kingdom of Moab dating back many centuries.



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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Unlike it's enemies Israel only needs to lose one war to no longer be a nation. Until the Camp David Peace accords, Arab nations would attack Israel almost like clockwork, as soon as the next generation of cannon fodder was old enough to throw against the Israeli military. I don't think it is a coincidence that Egypt decided to make peace shortly after Answan Dam was completed.

I have no doubt in my mind, that if Israel thinks it's about to be overrun, they would use their most powerful weapons. Against the national capital and strategic assets of the country attacking them and maybe the full "Samson Option".



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by definity
Yes they would. Any nation that uses a nuclear weapon it simply over, full stop. nuclear weapons are not taken lightly.

Just think that person who pushes that big red button knows as soon as you push it, everything is over.


I believe if Israel was attacked and felt they might lose- which would be the outcome of Egypt and Iran, Syria allying in the region, then Israel would use nuclear weapons IMO.

The people running the show don't care about the Israeli people, they've victims just as much as anyone else in the region.



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Any country that uses nuclear weapons either for offensive or defensive purposes will lose all legitimacy. This being said, if Israel were use to use them, the western governments would be hard pressed to support Israel. If the western governments did support Israel after the use of such a weapon these governments would face a massive backlash from their respective populations.



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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Sounds like something a terrorist nation would support. The hypocrisy is nauseating



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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The Sampson Option is not new. Its a stated policy and has been for some time. Israel is a VERY small country. If it feels its existence is threatened then yes the Sampson option is viable and ready to go.

The French gave Israel the bomb.
edit on 19-11-2012 by princeofpeace because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 19 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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we should all be prepared for the reality of what is going to happen.

Israel was thrown to the dogs at the hands of the globalists, Islam represents 1.5 Billion consumers and through the Obama administration we overthrew every puppet we had placed in office in the region to control the situation in hopes we could create a Muslim Caliphate across the region to bring about yet another large economic zone and from the pov of the globalists and corporate leaders across the globe this was a good idea.

Israel has over 300 Nukes including on subs

If it faces literally it's last stand they will Nuke every nation involved both enemy and friends who turned their backs on them.

Europe, Russia, Washington DC, the Israelis know full well what it means for any Nation to loose even a single city, they know full well their revenge for this would be the destruction of Globalism itself and they will absolutely end up doing so if they are going to die they will take their killers with them, honestly it would be appropriate to do so If someone was going to put a knife in me and I could cut them in return, absolutely i'd take them with me, many of us would do the same. It's only logical to assume that is what Israel would do. At the least it is a serious possibility.

So picture the USA following Sandy with the DC area taking a Nuke (very likely the Israelis have a few on the ground) they won't nuke Jewish Populated cities, nor Heavy Christian populated cities, My guess would be 3 - 4 locations DC, Detroit (if they have weapons on the ground) Norfolk perhaps Chicago areas where they would take out Us Government and strike hard at any US Muslim Population

No automobile industry, no government Millions dead, banks closed, economic systems down, computers fried...

Ditto for Moscow, London and anyone else that turned their backs or stood against them...

300 Nukes, they can destroy maybe not the world but end global commerce for 100 years, end every empire standing it would only take 3-4 bombs right now to end America, shift everything, Ditto for Russia, India, China, Europe.... heck 90% of Chinas economy could end with 3-4 bombs...

The ME? Damascus, Tehran, Constantinople, Baghdad, Mecca, Medina....a Few for places like Kuwait, and other rich mini nations that supply oil...

Maybe 30 nukes in the region and the world has no Oil

that leaves 240 nukes for over kill after destroying all the worlds major cities and ending the global oil supply

Why do I think they will do this?

Because it's what I would do in that position...

America has all but turned it's back so has Europe... we went to war with an enemy (right or wrong isn't the debate) Israel was an ALLY Al Queda the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas and the rest was the Enemy then we teamed up with Al Queda, displaced all those we had put in government in an attempt to help them form a Muslim Caliphate across the region leaving our ALLIES to be killed inevitably.... Israel will be screwed the Kurds are screwed the Armenians are likely screwed.... so that's the line of thought screw me I screw you back.

It's not NK or Pakistan or Iran that's going to do it, it will be an ex ally we screwed for MONEY and that is Exactly how Moloch works when you deal with him, you get rich but pay a dear price. The OP is right Israel will nuke the living poo out of everyone they can hit, us them everyone if their borders fall or those "thousands of rockets rain down" and the Globalists will RIP for casting them out over oil $$.

Don't kill the messenger, I don't want it, I don't support it but if it was most of you, you'd do the exact same thing and I suspect that is what Israel will do if they fall.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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This is why Israel will never allow Iran to get nukes. Israel's nukes are its fail-safe - the countries around it know that they cannot (ultimately) defeat Israel because they have no answer to the nukes. However, if just one of those surrounding countries got even 1 or 2 nukes of their own then Israel is doomed. It would only take 1 or 2 nukes to pretty much wipe Israel out. Sure, Israel could retaliate with their own, but it wouldn't matter by then - they don't have enough to destroy all their enemies, and they therefor cannot create a M.A.D. scenario to hold them in check.

Israel thinks that their enemies might well accept massive causalities in return for wiping Israel out for good. Israel also sees Iran supplying rockets to Hamas/Hezbollah and worries they might find a way of strapping a crude nuke to the warheads. We may not think either of those scenarios are likely......but Israel absolutely will not take the chance.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 09:34 PM
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First of all if you want to see where Egypts true loyalties are just look at the recent conflict. They worked hand in hand with Israel and the US. Egypt will not be going to war with Israel. They have no love for the Syrians or Iran either. Syria is wreck and will be attacking nobody. Iran can not invade. On top of all that Israel has a conventional military that is more than capable of dealing with all its neighbors at one time. They have after all been invaded by them a half dozen times. The only real threat to Israel is an Iranian nuke. That is threat shared with the US, Europe and the Arab states.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by MrSpad
First of all if you want to see where Egypts true loyalties are just look at the recent conflict.


You mean the way they negotiated on behalf of the Palestinians so as to maintain their arsenal and resources for future conflict?



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012
When Israel last launched prolonged airstrikes into Gaza in 2008-09, Israel had an ally in Egypt, which served to protect them from intervention from other nations.

Egypt acted as a block to stop nations such as Iran or Syria from attacking Israel. Since the Muslim Brotherhood came to power, this alliance has ended and Israel is completely isolated.

Many on ATS have been aware of this agenda for some time, seeing it being reported in the MSM months later just verifies the path we are on. The very reason I joined this forum was to question why the west allowed Mubarak to fall. It didn't take long to realise that allowing the Muslim Brotherhood into Egypt was to serve as isolating Israel.

Israel, courtesy of America and other western nations is the strongest military power in the middle east, certainly the most advanced. With the Zionist influence in many countries, they have even managed to acquire nuclear weapons.

This is the pretext for WW3- Iran and Syria are already opposed to Israel and they already fund terrorist organisations such as Hamas to attack Israel. They haven't been able to openly attack Israel because of Egypt- but Egypt is now on their side under the Muslim Brotherhood.

If the Muslim nations now surrounding Israel decide enough is enough and try and intervene to stop Israel salughtering the Palestinian people (there is talk of Israel sending ground forces into Gaza) then Israel will not think twice of using nuclear weapons to 'defend herself'.

If she is prepared to react to Hamas rockets with airstrikes and drone strikes against an incredibly densely populated area such as Gaza, then if the Syrian, Iranian or Egyptian military got involved in Gaza, then Israel would not think twice about using nukes.

www.haaretz.com...



Media outlets around the world have reported that state archive documents declassified this week showed that Israel's leadership considered using "drastic means" during the 1973 Yom Kippur War.

On October 9, a day after Egypt repulsed Israel's counterattack on the southern front, prime minister Golda Meir convened a top-level discussion in her office.

The outlook was grim. Troop losses were high, and ammunition and weapons stores were running out. At one point, Meir blurted out that she had a "crazy idea."



en.wikipedia.org...



On October 8, 1973 just after the start of the Yom Kippur War, Golda Meir and her closest aides decided to put eight nuclear armed F-4s at Tel Nof Airbase on 24 hour alert and as many nuclear missile launchers at Sedot Mikha Airbase operational as possible. Seymour Hersh adds that the initial target list that night "included the Egyptian and Syrian military headquarters near Cairo and Damascus".


en.wikipedia.org...



The Samson Option is Israel's alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a "last resort" against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well.[1] The phrase also has been used more generally to describe Israel's nuclear program.




Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,
And it will be a ruinous heap.”
- The Prophet Isaiah, chapter 17, verse 1




I'm glad you brought this up, in the way that you did.

it's a very serious matter and its one that could quickly escalate into the worst case scenario.

I have watched Pro-Israeli supporters making posts all over the net (recently) with this carefully scripted "righteous indignation" attitude with an "air of superiority" that made me think why?

This superiority complex & invincible attitude they are marketing around the internet ...may bring on the Jihad they fear EVEN FASTER.

This set a dangerous precedent when copy/pasting IDF propaganda around social mediums, it makes me WONDER if the scriptwriters WANT the Israeli people to be harmed? Its very strange to observe this an outsider with no vested interests in Israel.

might want to take a good hard look at the ones writing the news & proganda because it doesn't really sound like they want Israel to exist.


...........just my PERSONAL opinion... and thank you to OP for bringing this subject up


The SAMSON OPTION is a crime against all of humanity.
edit on 22-11-2012 by infowarrior9970 because: corrections



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by princeofpeace
Its a stated policy and has been for some time. Israel is a VERY small country.


Correction: Israel is a State, not a country.

PEOPLE have the right to exist ...not statehoods.

and yes the Jewish people have the right to exist, but the illegal STATE of Israel does not have the same rights as humans.

edit on 22-11-2012 by infowarrior9970 because: removal of snarky comment



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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Who went behind their nations back and sold the diagrams to Isreal..so they could build the bomb?
Who sold them the uranium?
Leave it alone ..I will please give me hundreds of stars and flags..i sell out.
It wasn't imported soviet Jewish spies into the uSA or the uK.
No way..stars please.



posted on Nov, 22 2012 @ 11:14 PM
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I would trust Israel with a nuclear bomb before I trust the USA or any other country with them. Israel has them but only the USA has ever used them.

Israel would not hesitate IF she is attacked by chemical or biological weapons.

Thats not to say if Israel would use their EMP weaponry for which Iran also has and no doubt so does the USA.





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