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reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 07:53 AM by Valedictorian
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Scientology is pure unadulterated Satanism - plain and simple. There is NO religion in any of it! Scientology and Masonry are joined at the hip - Masonry and Mormonism are joined at the head. They are borne of the same beast.
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reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 07:57 AM by FeelingPure
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I completely agree.
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reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 08:12 AM by FeelingPure
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i'm going to hell for this or should i say "i'm going to be dropped into a tropical volcano for this.


reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 08:21 AM by bumpufirst
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i cant say much about that video,yet i can say a little about sientology, in my perspective as to what hubbard said.sientology tech is more like a manual of the machine called human.we are born with no instructions of how to operate this body.in sientology he researched into this matter.does it work? well i have to say based on my own experience the little i had of envolvment with it,it helped me in a lot of things. i cant talk about the acusations against it,i am ignorant to the facts. what i can say is,it makes sence to have a know how to operate and its function of that machine we depend on in this world. it is devided into two,dianetics witch study and adresess the machine(human) and sientology witch study and adresess the I (soul).Jesus said ,everything i can do,you can do as well. but we dont know how and religion has grown in apathy in that direction.l.r. hubbard took his word for it and started investigating on the matter. and came up with some good results.based on my own experience,yet i can not speak for what i do not know.
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one more thing i must bring to mind,deception is every were these days. sadly the burden to prooving a fact is on the audience,if you will.
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reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 08:33 AM by Lagrimas
Originally posted by bumpufirst
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i cant say much about that video,yet i can say a little about sientology, in my perspective as to what hubbard said.sientology tech is more like a manual of the machine called human.we are born with no instructions of how to operate this body.in sientology he researched into this matter.does it work? well i have to say based on my own experience the little i had of envolvment with it,it helped me in a lot of things. i cant talk about the acusations against it,i am ignorant to the facts. what i can say is,it makes sence to have a know how to operate and its function of that machine we depend on in this world. it is devided into two,dianetics witch study and adresess the machine(human) and sientology witch study and adresess the I (soul).Jesus said ,everything i can do,you can do as well. but we dont know how and religion has grown in apathy in that direction.l.r. hubbard took his word for it and started investigating on the matter. and came up with some good results.based on my own experience,yet i can not speak for what i do not know.
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L Ron Hubbard dianetics and Scientology, is a rip off of Aliester Crowleys techniques.
Hubbard was friends with AC, in the OTO and had a druidic background.

Hubbard basically repackaged Crowleys techniques with more modern terminology. Example:
The magickal memory becomes time track.


reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 08:43 AM by bumpufirst
reply to post by Lagrimas


iam not aware of the argument you bring to the table as facts and i could care less since i cant proove that now.i am just going by my own experience . in the little i had to do with it,it gave me lots of knowledge and results.all i can say about it.did i see waky people? yes i did,but i have seen waky people in all walks of life.that is not the base of my conclusion,or i would be basing my facts on erroneus facts.


reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 08:56 AM by bumpufirst
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have you had experience in the matter ?or,is it just a conclusion you arrived at?based on media information.this is not sarcasm,its a honest question. dont pick me up wrong, i dont like money collecting religions.what i am talking about here is the tech they have.
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reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 09:02 AM by Lagrimas
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It wasnt an argument. You misconstrued my message.

I was backing up what you said, with agreement.

I am not a scientologist, but I do know many and I was even a guest talker at a scientology party last year!

I assure you that Hubbard did repackage AC's Magick.

AC's magick is proven to work. Robert Anton Wilson is a good source for information on how and why it works. Its to do with setting up multiple personality disorder in a controlled manner in order to effect psychologically beneficial behaviour traits.

If Magick works and Scientology is Magick, then it stands to reason: same techniques, same results.

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reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 09:13 AM by Lagrimas
Originally posted by Jauk3
Scientology is good science fiction, but not reality.
It's pure imagination, just like other science fiction stories, for example Star Wars.
These people want it to be true so bad, they create an illusion which they believe, thinking that they know the truth.
It's not just Scientology, but other religions too.

In a nutshell

Delusion

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You just explained why it does work. Delusion.
Like I said in my above post, a good source of information on why Aleister Crowley's techniques really do work is in RAW cosmic trigger, he gives you the information you desire and explains why Crowley should be considered one of the most talented psychologists of all time.

AC's techniques (and I believe scientology) can and will give people the ammunition to become more successful in life. That is not to say that you have to be a Thelemite or Scientologist to succeed. No. You can do it in other ways too... natural talent, strong work ethic and will.

Thelemites and Scientologists are just people that enjoy a formalised informational and practical self help program.

Nothing wrong with that.


reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 09:17 AM by bumpufirst
reply to post by Lagrimas



i did not know of this info,guess i will be reading up into ac magik to make my analisis of it and comparisons. what i can say is,my experience in sientology was of great value.and there is no dellusions up to were i was at.i do have problems with the money deal.it seems to have its nose in everything.


reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 09:31 AM by skepticconwatcher
reply to post by FeelingPure



That has GOT to be a spoofer or a comedian or something. That cannot be real. What was she laughing for and why would she post that on her own ?


reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 09:31 AM by Lagrimas
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Or even this scenario:

You know a young woman in her early 20's, a friend of the family.
Shes had a bad upbinging, has substance abuse issues and relatively little education.
She makes a new friend and starts going to church. Its the last thing you would have expected for her to start having faith, but Christianity works wonders in her life! Within no time at all she has a job, gets her own flat and is often seen laughing with her Christian friends in the local pub...


reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 09:33 AM by bumpufirst
reply to post by Lagrimas



a single experience i had with the tech i learned.my wife slammed the linchon continental car door on my 6 year old daughter, her hand began turning blue and was criying,by the time i finished my process of the tech,her hands was normal again and she was all cheered up.no doctors involved.miricale? perhaps,most religions grants that to god but i was sure happy to help my daughter in pain.and many other events in my life like that thanks to sientology.
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reply posted on 19-11-2012 @ 09:34 AM by Lagrimas
reply to post by skepticconwatcher



I did get the sense that she was a little unhinged, but I didnt jump to hoax myself.

Perhaps its because she is very unhinged and a little nuts that the structure of scientology works for her? If something felt beneficial in your life, might not you want to share it with other people?
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