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posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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Uh yeah but they ARE fringe elements and radical extremists.


Now click your heels together and repeat after me...."there's no place like home, there's no place like home"


Ad hominem attacks get you nowhere.


They reveal your arsenal, filled with NOTHING.


Abusive ad hominem (also called personal abuse or personal attacks) usually involves insulting or belittling one's opponents in order to attack their claims or invalidate their arguments, but can also involve pointing out true character flaws or actions that are irrelevant to the opponent's argument.

This is logically fallacious because it relates to the opponent's personal character, which has nothing to do with the logical merit of the opponent's argument




posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by macman
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Yeah, and bringing up Palin and the Earth Age question was just coincidence?
Yeah, ok then. Sure sure.

You keep throwing up those points. It stinks and I really don't know where the janitor is to clean them up.



Number one they are all over the place. You can't escape them.
I have heard so many squirm when asked the age of the Earth...just recently someone else ..

Point being it tells a great deal about the "low information voter" who the right often appeals to in their advertising. This last campaign....there was not time to verify the information and sort out the lies before people voted and that is what they were depending on. I never saw anything like it. I figured many people WOULD BE TAKEN IN, the ads were that persuasive. PEOPLE DIDN'T FALL FOR IT.

Which simply tells me the educated voter out numbers the uneducated if only by slightly. Thank God. The Christian God whatever the fk His name is...I am certain I am not allowed to say it. lol



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 09:12 AM
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You claim that 0bama won due to the educated voter?



That is the funniest thing I have heard today.
Yep, ok then.

Got any other good jokes?



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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I personally have no political allegiance to either political party and feel as though they are both broken. Though my personal slant is conservative I am open to talking with others about their personal politics and I find no offense in their offerings though I don't always agree..

I have ridden both sides of the fence having once made great sums of money in the tens of thousands in a month to now existing on a thousand at best ( yep I'm broke now lol ) my laughter there is because money doesn't really matter. If there are things in want you can go and get them health care and so on included.

I don't believe anyone is owed anything because they were born I have worked hard to earn the things I have and expect the same of others, that being said I don't believe anyone should go hungry or il But it happens everyday partly due to the current situation of the world and partly because that's life, no it doesn't make me happy either

I do know for a FACT that quarreling will get us no where I'm not saying don't exercise your right to free speech but please try and be constructive.

Some years back when I joined this site, I enjoyed the rhetoric and free flow of thoughts and now I seldom login due to all of the flaming going on

I like the ideas of others I don't always agree but where would we be and what would life be like if we were all the same

BORING!!!!!!!!!

Anyway just my 2 cents
Cheers****
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posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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The sad thing is we will probably all be dead before WE see the ramification of our decisions.

And our childrens children will wonder what we/you were thinking.

What kind of legacy will we leave our children?

All life is sacred.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant

Point being it tells a great deal about the "low information voter" who the right often appeals to in their advertising. This last campaign....there was not time to verify the information and sort out the lies before people voted and that is what they were depending on. I never saw anything like it. I figured many people WOULD BE TAKEN IN, the ads were that persuasive. PEOPLE DIDN'T FALL FOR IT.



I'm assuming you are a troll, because no intelligent or sane person could ever make the comments you have.

Obama received somewhere around 95% of the black vote. Are you actually saying 95% of blacks agree with his policies and didnt vote for him simply because he is black?



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by peck420
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Population grew by approx 180,000 / month.

Jobs grew by 163,000 / month (base average 2012).

Yet, government lists unemployment numbers as going down.



Those 180,000 new Americans are babies - not in the active work force. Population growth from 18 to 22 years ago are the more accurate measure of folks entering the workforce.

Then you need to calculate the number of folks leaving the workforce...Deaths and retiring.

10,000 Boomers to Retire Each Day for 19 Years.......(300,000 per month)
www.newsmax.com...

Retiring folks alone are nearly twice the population growth...even if you asume that babies can start work immediately...and not counting how many people die each month in America.

Just to sum it up..cuz it is a common play on "math" by GOP...Population does NOT equal Available work force.
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posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 10:25 AM
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www.forbes.com...

14.7% real unemployment.

Yep, things sure are turning the corner for 0bama and his policies.

Ok then.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by macman
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really??/David Duke is your smoking gun???

And what about Mr Byrd???The Former Grand Wizard of the KKK?

Please, before you go knocking on your neighbors door, maybe cleanup the crap in your own yard.


Oh yeah, What party was Bull Connor part of again???


Oh wow, really


The former Confederacy are all red states.

The states that utilized Jim Crow did so under the

Auspices of "states rights" -

Or are you trying to say Mississippi and Georgia

Are know for their left wing culture?


What is scary about the right wing bubble is

That you guys have abandoned reality.

I would much rather be aware than carry around

But you guys embrace it and cherish idiocy
half witted ignorance and denial.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Right wing idiots are heavily invested in the failure

Of America. It is like a self fulfilling prophecy for them.

All for the hatred of ONE man - they are why the

Consumer confidence is so low. If they would STFU and

Grow a pair, maybe the economy would pick up. Instead

They rely upon fear and doom



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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Originally posted by macman
reply to post by newcovenant
 


You claim that 0bama won due to the educated voter?



That is the funniest thing I have heard today.
Yep, ok then.

Got any other good jokes?


Funny things is,

YES


Romney's base is the under educated populace



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by peck420
reply to post by Indigo5
 

Population grew by approx 180,000 / month.

Jobs grew by 163,000 / month (base average 2012).

Yet, government lists unemployment numbers as going down.



Those 180,000 new Americans are babies - not in the active work force. Population growth from 18 to 22 years ago are the more accurate measure of folks entering the workforce.

Then you need to calculate the number of folks leaving the workforce...Deaths and retiring.

10,000 Boomers to Retire Each Day for 19 Years.......(300,000 per month)
www.newsmax.com...

Retiring folks alone are nearly twice the population growth...even if you asume that babies can start work immediately...and not counting how many people die each month in America.

Just to sum it up..cuz it is a common play on "math" by GOP...Population does NOT equal Available work force.
edit on 21-11-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)

Yes, the only growth rate in the in the US is new births...


Best get back to running your two companies
.

I hope for your employees sake that you calculate wages as well as you understand demographics.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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You going to answer the question for someone else, or just banter away?



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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cnsnews.com...
Many more where that came from.

But, it is safe to say you will just dismiss any, as it paints lord 0bama in a bad light and actually shows just how bad it is within the 0bama economy.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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Yeah, ok. You keep telling yourself that and patting each other on the butt about it.



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by macman
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Yeah, ok. You keep telling yourself that and patting each other on the butt about it.



You guys keep wishing for America to fail


I am not sure why some many of you are so invested in

That idea.

What are you gonna do when the economy takes off and leaves

Your rhetoric in the dust???



posted on Nov, 21 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by macman
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cnsnews.com...
Many more where that came from.

But, it is safe to say you will just dismiss any, as it paints lord 0bama in a bad light and actually shows just how bad it is within the 0bama economy.


"The Obama economy"


You must worship him


How come Republicans don't reference

"""""""Real""""""" unemployment numbers when

The GOP is in control?

Only a liar has to change reference points to sell their

"Truth".





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