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reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 05:43 PM by ColoradoJens
Originally posted by butcherguy
Originally posted by ColoradoJens
Originally posted by macman
reply to
post by Trustfund



The false narrative of Racism being why 0bama is hated is very old and very tired and very much a lie in and of itself.
It is the last straw of any Liberal that has nothing else to fall back on.

This has nothing to do with race, nor creed, nor sex nor anything but 0bama being the worst choice for leader of the US and his Admin as well.



Thank goodness, racism doesn't exist anymore...who knew? Finally, we are free of all that.

CJ
No one says racism doesn't exist.

Answer the tough question.

How has racism stopped President Obama from doing his job as POTUS?


Clearly racism has not stopped him. Who said it did? To deny that there are many racists who dislike the President because he is partially black is silly.

CJ


reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 06:06 PM by peck420
reply to post by Indigo5


Population grew by approx 180,000 / month.

Jobs grew by 163,000 / month (base average 2012).

Yet, government lists unemployment numbers as going down.

Basic math...the US is currently haemorrhaging the active labour force.

That is not a good thing.


reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 06:28 PM by butcherguy
reply to post by ColoradoJens




Clearly racism has not stopped him. Who said it did? To deny that there are many racists who dislike the President because he is partially black is silly.
yes, it is silly.

To use the fact that racism exists as an excuse for Obama's ineffective management of the Executive branch of the US Govt is even sillier.



reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 07:16 PM by ColoradoJens
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to
post by ColoradoJens




Clearly racism has not stopped him. Who said it did? To deny that there are many racists who dislike the President because he is partially black is silly.
yes, it is silly.

To use the fact that racism exists as an excuse for Obama's ineffective management of the Executive branch of the US Govt is even sillier.


True, that would be. Mind citing an example where anyone did that? I think most would agree that there is a segment of racists who detest the president because he is black. To completely deny it is folly.

CJ


reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 07:19 PM by Thepump
Originally posted by peck420
reply to
post by Indigo5


Population grew by approx 180,000 / month.

Jobs grew by 163,000 / month (base average 2012).

Yet, government lists unemployment numbers as going down.

Basic math...the US is currently haemorrhaging the active labour force.

That is not a good thing.


I was unaware that newborns need jobs


reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 07:38 PM by DarthMuerte
reply to post by ColoradoJens


Sure, make lobbying illegal, institute term limits, and cut congressional salaries to minimum wage. That would help, but then we need to get rid of our current tax code and institute the Fair Tax. After that, government spending must be Constitutionally limited to 15% of GDP all inclusive.



reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 07:45 PM by ColoradoJens
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
reply to
post by ColoradoJens


Sure, make lobbying illegal, institute term limits, and cut congressional salaries to minimum wage. That would help, but then we need to get rid of our current tax code and institute the Fair Tax. After that, government spending must be Constitutionally limited to 15% of GDP all inclusive.


Christ in a side car DM - we agree!

CJ
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reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 07:47 PM by DarthMuerte
Originally posted by ColoradoJens
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
reply to
post by ColoradoJens


Sure, make lobbying illegal, institute term limits, and cut congressional salaries to minimum wage. That would help, but then we need to get rid of our current tax code and institute the Fair Tax. After that, government spending must be Constitutionally limited to 15% of GDP all inclusive.


Christ in a side cart DM - we agree!

CJ
It must be snowing in hell at the moment.


reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 07:50 PM by Liquesence
Originally posted by macman
reply to
post by newcovenant



First term 0bama was a failure. Second term 0bama will be the same, just more and faster.


Yup, First Term Obama was a "failure" because Republicans were very loud and clear that they would do everything they could to see he failed--which they did-- *so* that they could say he failed on as many points as possible.


Come off it, man.


reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 08:01 PM by butcherguy
reply to post by Liquesence



Come off it, man.

Uh, Obama had no Republicans standing in his way for the first two years he spent in office.

Or don't you remember two years ago when they referred to Nancy Pelosi as The Speaker of the House???


reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 08:08 PM by Trustfund
reply to post by beezzer



Racism is based off race, not political opinions. What you're describing is just people annoyed at you.


reply posted on 20-11-2012 @ 09:27 PM by newcovenant
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to
post by newcovenant


We WILL collapse and many operations will go out of business but it will not affect the poor.
You can't subtract nothing from nothing.

When that day comes the poor will help each other - we will go back to sustenance farming, as we always have. People will boycott poor employers and rush to the honorable and ethical.


The poor in the United States suffer from obesity, diabetes and other consumption related illness while juggling Iphones, Ipods and watching the calendar for TANF, Food Stamps and/or Unemployment. Of course it can get worse for the poor. It can get MUCH worse. I would suggest anyone who thinks differently, go to you tube and watch a few videos about the poor of Manila in The Philippines, or take your pick, but virtually anywhere in Africa outside of South Africa and a couple North African nations which work hard to maintain the standard of living they do have.

You'll have to excuse me while I sigh. You look forward to a return to an agrarian society?? Ask China about all that...They've spent nearly two decades moving at warp speed (compared to the time it took the West early last century to do the same thing, to get AWAY from farming to simply live as a basis for their national productivity. The idea that anyone on Earth would willingly look to return to what basically amounts to grinding poverty (while you can bet the rest of the world won't be taking one for the team to join us) is depressing. That it would be envisioned by anyone for an American future is more than depressing. It's defeatist and fatalist.
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Those are not the poor.... juggling the iphones and ipods.
Sadly enough... that's the middle class these days.

There are a good many tiers below even the chubby genxers..
You don't even know it and that's part of the problem.



Pardon me while I sigh...don't ask me about China.

Here is something to remember. I'm sure you'll know where it's from ...

"First they came for the socialists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionists

Then they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak for me. "

Martin Niemoller
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