RELIGION is a collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values. Many religions have narratives, symbols, traditions and sacred histories that are intended to give meaning to life or to explain the origin of life or the Universe. They tend to derive morality, ethics, religious laws or a preferred lifestyle from their ideas about the cosmos and human nature. According to some estimates, there are roughly 4,200 religions in the world.
On Easter Sunday of 2008, 11-year-old Kara Neumann of Weston, Wisconsin, suffered waves of nausea as she lay motionless on her deathbed, too weak to walk or speak. Kara's parents — both followers of the Unleavened Bread Ministries, an online church that shuns medical intervention — knelt in prayer beside their dying daughter. They did not call a doctor for help. A few hours later, Kara died of diabetes, a relatively common — and treatable — condition. Read more: www.time.com...
The topic of religiosity and intelligence is the statistical relationship between intelligence and religiosity. Studies have begun to explore the link between religiosity and issues related to intelligence and educational level.
Various studies further suggest that intuitive thinking and inductive reasoning styles tend to increase religious beliefs, but also imply more conservative beliefs in general. Less religious people prefer analytical and deductive reasoning. IQ only measures mathematical and analytical capabilities, so it usually correlates with less religiosity.
Although statistical studies show that the poorest countries tend to be more religious, experts suggest that the reason may be that religions play a more active social, moral and cultural role in those countries, emulating nationalism. Religions in wealthy countries used to have a more specific moral and spiritual role.
1. taking life
2. taking what is not given
3. sexual misconduct
5. sowing discord
6. harsh speech
7. idle gossip (or worthless chatter)
9. ill will (or wishing harm on others)
10. wrong views
Looking beyond sophomoric pop-culture views that see it as some antiquated relic of rigid mental confinement, its not difficult to see why Religion has been the basis of human culture, civilization and science. I dare say that without its precepts we'd still be at the evolutionary stage of murderous savages.
Whether its religions in the East (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Shintoism, Taoism) or Religions in the West (Islam, Judaism, Christianity), they all lay a foundation from which to flourish spiritually, intellectually and live in peace and prosperity among each other.
Religions in the West (Islam, Judaism, Christianity), they all lay a foundation from which to flourish spiritually, intellectually and live in peace and prosperity among each other.
Once again we are talking about personal intellectual advancement, however, it seems befitting of my friend to consistently generalise:
Rather than representing Religion as a whole....is not a valid argument of logic or evidence.
Religion has been the basis of mankinds advancement. As humankind advances, the nature of Religion changes, but the essential teachings of religion remain the same.
Learning at least the basics of the great old books of the world will advance you intellectually and spiritually. These old books are treasure troves of wisdom.
Evidence shows strong relationships between levels of violence and potentially modifiable factors such as concentrated poverty, income and gender inequality, the harmful use of alcohol, and the absence of safe, stable, and nurturing relationships between children and parents
8 Atrocities committed in the name of Religion
Lets hear specific examples of individuals whom have advanced intellectually due to their religion.
Sublimecraft is doing the Billions of law-abiding, decent, friendly, loving, caring, tolerant Religion-Adherents a great disservice with his gross distortions.
Examples of scientifically credible strategies to prevent violence include...school-based programmes to address gender norms and attitudes...reducing access to guns and knives; and promoting gender equality by, for instance, supporting the economic empowerment of women
You can only help those whose are willing to help themselves. It all starts and ends with the individual. The community then nation then the whole world becomes more enlightened. So, the personal intellectual advancement of certain individuals is proven to be restricted because they refuse (or are denied) education which departs from their own world-view - that view being, in many cases, engrained since birth by Religiosity.
To make this world a better place and advance intellectually we need to reduce these kinds of generalizations and think more deeply and honestly.
Indeed, but certain factions and/or individuals fall outside the normal intellectual level of the "religious people" which make up this statistical infograph - refer to my 2nd post for associated examples.
The following statistical Infographic was neutrally compiled and really dispells the popular myth that religious people are backwards idiots with no social life and no intellectual capacity:
Agreed, however, a deranged suicide-cult-leader or jihadist-beheader has a "capped' intellectual level due to the Religion they follow and have interpreted accordingly - the adherents they have "sucked-in" are in the same category - personal intellectual advancement limited / eliminated / set-back.
Conclusion: A deranged suicide-cult-leader or jihadist-beheader do not represent the great majority of religious people.
Inspiration/methods for the construction of and design purpose of such monuments is in no-way conclusive. I will give you the opportunity in you retort to provide corroborative evidence that these structures are Religious in nature / inspired.
Wait a minute....the structures that MOST represent our intellectual advancement were religious structures
Einstein, Planck, Copernicus, Kepler, Bacon, Descartes, Galilei, Newton, Faraday, Boyle, Kelvin....space limitations do not allow me to go on. But its well known that many of the most famous scientists of all time were not only deeply religious people but themselves said they were inspired by Religion. Do you agree that these are specific individuals that have contributed to our personal intellectual advancement?
The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect intended us to forgo their use.
And thus much concerning God; to discourse of whom from the appearances of things does certainly belong to Natural Philosophy.[science]
Originally posted by Sublimecraft
In each example I have provided, the motivation for the individual to commit these crimes has been their interpretation of their religion.
With the examples I have provided in the previous posts, the atrocities may have been prevented, had the perpetrators received or sort an adequate level of education in such matters
Agreed, however, a deranged suicide-cult-leader or jihadist-beheader has a "capped' intellectual level due to the Religion
I will give you the opportunity in you retort to provide corroborative evidence that these structures are Religious in nature / inspired.
A cathedral is a Christian church which contains the seat of a bishop,
The Pyramids of Giza and others are thought to have been constructed to house the remains of the deceased Pharaohs who ruled over Ancient Egypt. A portion of the Pharaoh's spirit called his ka was believed to remain with his corpse. Proper care of the remains was necessary in order for the "former Pharaoh to perform his new duties as king of the dead." It's theorized the pyramid not only served as a tomb for the Pharaoh but also as storage for the various items he would need in the afterlife. "The people of Ancient Egypt believed that death on Earth was the start of a journey to the next world. The embalmed body of the King was entombed underneath or within the pyramid to protect it and allow his transformation and ascension to the afterlife."
Our personal intellectual advancement? This statement is an oxymoron
"The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge" - Einstein
I'm surprised that neither debtor brought up the Jesuits. A branch of Catholocism that pursued the intellectual aspects of faith. But that's just me.
Sublimecraft offered specific examples for his argument.
Skyfloating attempted to respond in a broader sense.
The issue, I felt, was that by focusing on just the specifics, you lose the ability to "see the forest through the trees". By narrowing the focus, the argument was lost in that there can and will be exemptions to any specific rule.
Skyfloating took the larger picture and responded well to Sublimecrafts assertions.
While both did very well, the win goes to Skyfloating
Challenge Match: Sublimecraft vs Skyfloating - Is Religion a set-back to personal intellectual advancement
Sublimecraft starts right off making one of the most common mistakes in Debating; attempting to redefine the debate for the readers. This just took up space and gave Skyfloating a HUGE opening for his first post.
Sublimecraft could have made a better argument had he stayed away from presenting individual cases as being representative of the whole. Skyfloating was able to not only refute that effectively, but then continued to further his stance with more examples of how religion has shaped the world and not just individuals
Win to Skyfloating hands down